The Undetectable Infection

[rosie26]

Do any you guys get a really dry mouth during a mini crash/dip?

I get the dry mouth too.

 

[msf]

Fix our leaky guts?

 

[rosie26]

Fix our leaky guts?

I think it might take immune system fixes for that one? In the meantime...

 

[MeSci]

I think it might take immune system fixes for that one? In the meantime...

Try this thread.

 

[Streppy]

Hi Elp,
thanks for the protocol. Mine is similar to yours that the Hale clinic has me on and has worked really well.

Bugs:
5ml X Bicarb X 3 day.
Diatomaceous Earth x 2 day (1g)
Wild Oregano Oil.
NAC for Biofilm Breaks.

Immune Assistance
Vit D X 100,000ui Day
Vit k2 X 1 Every other day
Vit C X 5g Liposomal Day
AHCC or IP6 or BioBran (preferred) 2g Day (NK Function)
50mg Zinc Day

Anti Inflammatory
Liposomal Termeric x 3g or Curamed.
Super Garlic by Lindens.
Neuroprotek OR Quercetin/White Willow Mix. (mast stabilise)

Diet: Paleo
Sugar: Avoid like plague.
If eating carbs...buffer with protein to avoid Glucose Spike.
Brazil Nuts for High Dose Selenium.
Fatty Fish for Omegas.
Bicarb can be switched for 2 squeezed lemons in hot water to break it up.
Apple cider vinegar used in dressings.

Thanks for this post I think I buy the NAC it's really helpful everyone posting what there taking. I googled it and found this http://fixyourgut.com/supplements-combat-biofilm-part-2/

 

[gregh286]

Well in my last visit to hale clinic produced a worrying result.
The Strep.Bovis that is highly active in spleen has now decided to go on vacation to kidney and bladder area and not active in spleen.
Maybe its a positive as it many be easier to address in this area.
Also in connective tissue (lypmh) which is no surprise as it moves around body via connective tissue.
Maybe explains why I have been so dry last few days in mouth, really puffy eyes and get a dull ache around the left kidney area.Much more heavily fatigued also.
Bovis is a lactic acid bacteria also.
Does anyone else get bad night sweats?
I believe this pesky bugger is at the heart of my problems...but damn hard to shift.
The battle continues.

 

[Mark37]

How do they test so accurately - strep species and moving locations?

I had night sweats intermittently for at least 6 months, which came on a few months after this started. After night sweats settled down, some symptoms stopped and others began.

night sweats returned with increase in symptoms probably 5 times since initial onset, the last being when i introduced accupuncture and Chinese herbs. I ramped up immune and bug killing protocol at that time also. new symptoms began with the top of my head and legs feeling severely sunburned. I was bed bound aching, gut burning, with a cracking headache and unable to speak for 3 days due to ripping sore throat, very weak and at a level near identical to when this first kicked in 5 years ago.

Back then l was then unable to work for around a year, this time l kicked its backside.

Maybe infection is moving not due to vacation, but because you're belting them? Some of my previous flares can be attributed to my immune system killing pathogens.

Im with Elph, once these nasties get to the prostate, they're near impossible to eradicate and setup perpetual inflammation. Had a doc call this "manufacture".

I also have wondered if we picked up a highly resistant bug within a particular strain type. I floated this with bioscreen and as they weren't testing sensitivity of pathogens identified, they couldn't confirm.

 

[gregh286]

Bioresonance.
Now before anyone calls it quackery...i never mentioned kidney ache or thirst or puffiness to her....machine picked it up...reaffirming its accuracy.
They have made left kidney inflammed now.
They only moved after i started on biobran mgn. Strongest nk cell stimulant.
Something made them irate.

 

[Mark37]

Look after yourself right now, you might be in the midst of breakthrough. They may be fleeing for their lives.

 

[gregh286]

Certainly feels like a war.of sorts.
You know when you have a flu your body wants.to sleep all time.
Like that now.
Uva ursi getting a ripping.

 

[Streppy]

Hope your ok gregh. I remember having an enlarged spleen before and they just said it was because I was making more white blood cells. Seeing your post make me wonder if something else was going on. We need a lab that will test our strep bugs and tell us what antibiotics will kill it

 

[gregh286]

thanks @Streppy
hard to get info on strep.bovis.
I notice it fails to grow in sodium chloride solution: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/229209-clinical#b5

Possibly sodium bicarb has same effect hence some sucess with bicarb,

 

[gregh286]

Hope your ok gregh. I remember having an enlarged spleen before and they just said it was because I was making more white blood cells. Seeing your post make me wonder if something else was going on. We need a lab that will test our strep bugs and tell us what antibiotics will kill it

Who does lab testing for this..strep variants.... Need something in print for the GP...or he'll think im even more quackers.

 

[Streppy]

The bioscreen test seems now to tell you want kind of strep you have in your stool

 

[Streppy]

Seeing Dr kenny in Brussels tomorrow can anyone think of anything to ask him? I do have short list like I am going to ask about xylitol as I'm scared of it but seems to be helping some of you

 

[gregh286]

If its your first visit you wont be asking him very much as he prefer not to comment much without results from the labs he uses.
Hes a real modest guy but i just feel hes' putting clients through a revolving door and stamping late stage lyme disease on the cards.
Best luck hope you get something from it.

 

[Streppy]

It's interesting you said that , I talked to a women last time I was there from Holland who said that he had really helped her, gone from being in a wheel chair to driving herself there and walking around . But she said most people are given the label of Lyme by him. Maybe the intervenus antibiotics he gives do help a lot of people. It's not my first time going it's about my third now. I just have to see

 

[gregh286]

hi,
yea i would say the IV antibiotics taking out some other undiagnosed bacteria...(strep
I met a guy with lyme disease there...his biomarkers totally different to mine...I kept in touch.
His lyme markers were way higher, he had normal D-lactate, mine very high...amongst other things.

 

[Streppy]

He said I had late stage Lyme as well as d lactate. But I still like him.because he believes me that strep is my problem. I'm not bothered about the late stage Lyme and I think it's weird that he telling lots of people that's what they got but maybe the cure for this drives out any strep that's left in your system so I'm going to stick with him .

 

[gregh286]

Thats interesting.
Whats he advised you medicine wise for.it.