All these years I have been snubbing the sugarcane juice at the farmer's market 
They press it in front of you
They press it in front of you
The Resistant Starch Challenge: Is It The Key We've Been Looking For?
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Cat's claw is a South American herb, isn't it?
@melamine, sidereal posted good sources of fibres. You could stop RS, take these fibres and probiotics for a month or two, and then start with RS and other fibres again.
If candida proliferated because of abx, then f.ex.bifido longum should be feeded, because all bifido longum is needed for candida. Here RS alone does not much good, as RS increases other healthy bacterias, but deminishes bifido longum. RS always should be only part of prebiotics.
If candida proliferated because of abx, then f.ex.bifido longum should be feeded, because all bifido longum is needed for candida. Here RS alone does not much good, as RS increases other healthy bacterias, but deminishes bifido longum. RS always should be only part of prebiotics.
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Couldn't agree more and if there's anything we've learned from 133 pages of collective experience is that RS is not the answer for anyone with ME/CFS, only a part of an overall gut modification strategy. Some people may not even need it. If I were starting this all over again, knowing what we know now, I would start with mucilages to try and fix the epithelial lining first and would have stayed away from RS until much later.
Thanks @jepps - B. longum is in good proportion in the probiotics I'm taking, but I didn't know RS depletes it! I had intended to look into the fibers sidereal had mentioned and will make a point of doing so asap.
@Sidereal - I was just reading on here yesterday about mucilages and haven't had time to look into them enough to see what kind are in my diet already and to make adjustments. I had just finished a week of abx and felt it was necessary to do some probiotic restoration in that way asap. I do like the way the RS has immediately restored normalcy to my bowel movements so I plan on continuing using it to some extent for that reason if for no other.
Definitely. I'm also using beet root powder (small amount) and larch arabinogalactan, but haven't been using them in a balanced proportion to the amount of RS, from what I read. I also want to add more variety in time. I just kind of plowed into this to test the waters and now have to start refining.
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I just kind of plowed into this to test the waters and now have to start refining.
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We like those damn long posts. Sorry about your carpal tunnel, though.
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Interesting about the possible thickening skin/hypothyroid connection. That would make sense and could definitely be a player in my problem, too, although I definitely it has to do with fatty acids, too. Have you ever seen thickening skin listed as a symptom of hypothyroid?
I get tinnitus. I wonder if I should keep trying withit.
Gotta hate D3 supplementation too
Gotta hate D3 supplementation too
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This is basically the approach my doc took when she diagnosed me with leaky gut five or so years ago. She started me off on a supplement that had a lot of slippery elm in it, and probably chitin (from shrimp, crab, and lobster), pllus something called "epithelial growth factor".
Interesting. Was it helpful?
Slippery elm bark is on my To Try list. I've done well with NAG from shellfish. I was not able to tolerate the Artinia chitin-glucan product, though. Big candida flare.
Have you seen this thread?
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...nxiety-symptoms-with-three-supplements.18369/
Interesting prebiotic combo for anyone struggling with sympathetic activation issues, though I would argue milled flax seed is more useful than flax seed oil.
Slippery elm bark is on my To Try list. I've done well with NAG from shellfish. I was not able to tolerate the Artinia chitin-glucan product, though. Big candida flare.
Have you seen this thread?
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...nxiety-symptoms-with-three-supplements.18369/
Interesting prebiotic combo for anyone struggling with sympathetic activation issues, though I would argue milled flax seed is more useful than flax seed oil.
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I can't be sure right now I think so
I think so
So you would say that increasing Tregs is a good thing for ME/CFS, keeping in mind those studies that have showed elevated levels? I'm confused because increased Tregs just doesn't fit the picture of the hyperimmune/inflammatory nature of ME/CFS. I feel like I need less immune activation, not more. I have seasonal allergies which definitely points to low IL-10 and Tregs.
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@adreno and @Vegas - This is the opposite of me. I have immune deficiency, non-specific autoimmune disease (MCTD), and almost no true allergies. The only time my IL-10 was measured, it was somewhat above normal. My understanding of ME/CFS is that it it's a disease of immune dysregulation, in which different aspects of it are emphasized in individuals for reasons to do with their particular genetic makeup and environmental and infectious exposures....which is a reason there has been so much confusion identifying what it is.
Similar situation here with an iffy autoimmune diagnosis (UCTD) and no true allergies but pseudoallergies to all sorts of things. I don't see any evidence of true autoimmunity in ME/CFS. If anything, it seems like we're stuck with excessive immune tolerance. I recall Cheney commenting how it took him like two decades to see the first case of lupus amongst thousands of ME/CFS patients.
I hope @awkwardlymodern won't mind me quoting her post from another thread here as it seems pertinent to this Treg discussion. Her experiences with steroids largely mirror mine.