Wow, I must have missed one post and so no longer received these posts. I was a couple pages behind.
My last post was May 16, 3 weeks ago. I listed there a number of supps I no longer need since stopping the vegetable folinic and reducing the load on adrenals. In this list I included thyroid (T3), which was only temporary, one of the several that were impacting negatively on adrenals at this critical time. I've since resumed T3 at 30mcg, half of what I took a year ago when starting Freddd's Protocol. However, the glutamine and inositol are now permanently on the finished list.
The ensuing 3 weeks have been high drama for me. Terminating my primary cooked vegetable (1-2 small zucchini/day) while I was still drinking fresh juice and eating bone broth, still engaged in active detox protocol, sent me into a raging detox response. I’d been so conservative about my detox choices, and it was now a galloping horse, with me desperately trying to exert some control.
I was continuing on w/ my coffee enema protocol, which included water enemas before and after 2 separate coffee enemas. I used chlorella along w/ a number of other thins in these water enemas, and footbaths w/ clay and charcoal to capture the toxins. I also needed additional support w/ poultices to liver and adrenals, made of chlorella, clay, charcoal, distilled water.
What was remarkable during this period was that with the clearing of my adrenals, the first phase of this post-zucchini detox, I had absolutely no anxiety, irritability, agitation. I was resourceful and relilient. this new temperament, personality transplant is very real indeed. Issues I'd spent decades chasing with all manner of therapies cleared as the toxins dumped from my adrenals.
Then I entered a phase of what I can only think was eliminating the last and smallest neurotoxins. I could feel waves of sensations moving through my body. I added some zeolites (fulvic/humic) to my enemas, footbaths, poultices. It felt like I was trying to strain molasses through silk. Once I finally had captured the toxic sludge, the next stage was to remove it. It felt like a solid block stuck in my bowel. On the final night, I was up most of the night doing enemas w/ soap, which I'd not done in the past. Once this stuff moved, I needed to purify my space, burn sage and bicarb, fan and open windows, shower repeatedly w/ handsfull of bicarb. This was like nothing I;d ever experienced. I felt like I'd just eliminated the spawn of satan. Truly.
But the mop-up continued. I'm not sure now why I switched to footbaths as primary method, probably because by this time I hoed to never see another enema bucket for a very long time. but in the footbaths I never thought to add Na, which was always part of my enemas. And so over the course of 1 critical day, as I felt symptoms shifting through my body from toxins to neuropathy of a different sort, I entered the land of Na depletion. I did footbath after footbath, pouring in at least a week's worth of Ca, C, K+...but no Na. In the end, I needed to call the ambulance, spent a night in hospital w/ a saline drip.
When I got home the next day I immediately started the enemas to replenish the Na. things went ok. Then, about 2 days later, in response to other symptoms, which I'd have to review my notes to track, I added a bit more Na to footbath, then a handful. WHOOPS! In my over-compensation, I flooded my now-empty-of-toxins receptors with Na. A near disaster. There was no way I was going to go to hospital again, I needed to manage this. I flushed over and over to move it out. My legs and arms were like stuffed sausages, holding all that salt in solution. It's taken nearly 2 weeks to rid myself of this overdose. And even today I'm going for another enema to get the last bit to move out. I've finally had 2 nearly unbroken nights of sleep in a row.
The BIGGEST LESSON: If you're stopping vegetable folate, do it gradually. And, RESPECT HUMBLE SALT.
The good news is I truly feel I've completed a major detox of my body, ridding it of a lifetime's accumulation. Which means that simple maintenance will keep me clean into the future. The adrenal clearing has been massive. I now, for the first time in over a decade, have almost no tinnitus. Sometimes absolute silence. But, as I'm still disadvantaged by excess Na in the system, at times a small hssss.
I'm maintaining at 15mg Mfolate, 25mgMB12, 3.3mg AdB12. There have been stretches during this period when my body has rejected folate for 2-3 days at a time, with no deficiency symptoms. Also, it's mostly still rejecting my low dose B complex. Again, something connected to too much for the adrenals to handle.
Here's an excellent Nutritional Values website, for folate and other food values:
http://foodinfo.us/SourcesUnabridged.aspx?Nutr_No=435
Well, now that I've finally put my experience into writing, I'll respond to a few things that were on the thread.
@
caledonia
I noticed that @
ahmo mentioned on this thread that he/she was taking lithium, but I couldn't tell if it helped with folate uptake or not
I don't know, it certainly helped w/ stabilizing my mood. However I can say that lithium is one of the many things my body has rejected during this period. I haven't used it for about 3 weeks. Each time I ask, 'will we resume this?', body says yes...And moods have been calm and mellow like no other time in my life.
@
Dfox
Thanks Ahmo: I have been looking at the links you provided and appreciate it very much: I have one question that perhaps you or someone else can answer: Is there someplace on the PR site here where I can go and get the most CURRENT Freddd protocol, with suggested supplements and perhaps "watch this or that". It seems that as I have followed threads, I get off on rabbit trails, and then get very confused.
…I hope you get this. You would think by now I would have posting "down"? The website to Dr. T is awesome, thanks. Also, do you mind my asking where to get the royal jelly. I looked for quite some time and never found any that was very clean.
…My problem has always been sleep issues (surprise). I slept about 4 hrs last nite, but some of that was at 6 this am after taking a sleep supplement.
I get my royal jelly from iherb, brand Paradise.
My life-long insomnia has
resolved since Freddd's Protocol. I even take my 3rd dose folate at bedtime, have frequently needed an additional B12 at bedtime to quell high folate issues when I've increaed doses.
I'm working on a Guide to Freddd's Protocol, just have to get the formatting right, make it available. Maybe this will help:
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...ion-made-disappear-for-you.27968/#post-427560
Jan2014, Freddd: Right now I am testing the Country Life and trying to find the most effective amount and mix.
Country Life Methyl B12 - 90-120mg
Enzymatic Therapy B12 infusion - 10-20mg
Anabol Naturals Dibencoplex (capsules currently sublingual) - 10-20 mg
Metafolin - 8-12 mg
Drs. Best LCF - 1000mg (2 capsules)
NatureMade SAM-e 800-mg
When to Add things:
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...t-hole-insufficiency.22614/page-2#post-345537
“Following the newer version of the titration pattern then the steps look like this.
1 - Titrate AdoCbl/MeCbl combo to approximately 100mcg absorbed where healing can “turn on” with 200-800mcg of l-methylfolate. 200mcg will not be enough and will immediately (3 days) give “detox” symptoms composed of low potassium and donut hole folate insufficiency. If startup does not occur by the time one gets to 1000mcg combined absorbed cobalamins, titrate LCF
2- Identify low potassium symptoms and titrate potassium.
3 - Identify donut hole folate insufficiency and titrate with 4x-8x dose size of l-methylfolate several times a day until those symptoms are strongly diminishing.
4 - titrate AdoCbl and MeCbl to perhaps a nominal sublingual dose of 1000mcg each, watching for low potassium, donut hole folate insufficiency and identify any other new symptoms, and what isn’t being taken care of
5 - Finish titrating LCF to 500-1000mg for now, then identify what isn’t healing or not enough. Try SAM-e, TMG, D- ribose, Vit D, Zinc, B-vits and various things as needed to improve performance. It isn’t a try 1 thing and then another. It is add SAM-e and then TMG and various other things. It is usually combinations that yield results. SAM-e need titration over several months. LCF could take six months to titrate up to the 500mg dose and try 1000mg to see if it makes a difference. Don’t rush things. Think things through. Look at the symptoms and effective supplements for them to get ideas. Most people will fall into one of several groups. Almost everybody here has appears to have complicating factors and more severe things going on, with me it is SACD which is basically long term damage from prolonged deficiency. Hormones get all messed up and will often change during these titrations.. There isn’t a system of the body that is immune to damage from these deficiencies. As there are at least 600 reactions affected by the methylation and ATP the variations are huge in number.
6 - Titrate MeCbl separately until it makes no difference.
7 - Adjust potassium and l-methylfolate as needed by response to symptoms
8 - Titrate AdoCbl separately until maximum amount that makes a difference.
9 - Adjust LCF
10 - Adjust various factors.”
@
zzz0r
The worst symptom for me due to methylfolate supplementation is insomnia
…However many people do not know that importance of vitamin c for the adrenals AND in particular the critical role that it plays for the production of cortisol.
As I noted above, my insomnia has totally resolved w/ Mfolate/B12. Even during this most intense 3 week period of my life, I could doze in between needing to get up to treat myself. Miraculous!
I'm using C in footbaths daily. I assumed it was largely for reducing histamines, but might well be for adrenals, as you mention. Ranges from 1 tsp to 1 Tb ascorbic acid in FB, 1/2 times/day. Also in my enemas.
Well, thanks for listening! I'm so happy to be summarizing my experiences, instead of immersed in them! I've had some intense periods in my life, but nothing like this. And I've lived to tell the tale.
PS Also, all my mast cell symptoms, which are directly related to adrenal stress, disappeared in this period. And my formerly dry skin is now moist. Happy Adrenals
