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Cipher quoted my last update, I basically had mild improvement from 19 July to 4 August (plus/minus a day), then this improvement was gone and I returned to feeling exactly how I felt before I started Dr.Markov's treatment.@Hipsman Are you cured yet? what's your current thought on the effectiveness of Markov's methodology for testing and treatment? Should we start flying halfway around the world to try it yet?
Before my treatment with the vaccines began Dr Igor Markov said that staphylococcus aureus is not the main bacteria that causes problems for me, we haven't found the main pathogenic bacteria yet, I hope we will find the bastard after a couple more 3-days-in-a-row warm urine bacterial culture tests, if everything goes to plan, then in around 2-3 months we will find that main pathogenic bacteria, and then do the autovaccine treatment against it.
BTW, this thread is meant for questions directly to Dr. Igor Markov, maybe a mod can more the posts over to the discussion thread?
Thank you very much for your detailed answer. I hope you're successful in finding it and feel better soon.Cipher quoted my last update, I basically had mild improvement from 19 July to 4 August (plus/minus a day), then this improvement was gone and I returned to feeling exactly how I felt before I started Dr.Markov's treatment.
Before my treatment with the vaccines began Dr Igor Markov said that staphylococcus aureus is not the main bacteria that causes problems for me, we haven't found the main pathogenic bacteria yet, I hope we will find the bastard after a couple more 3-days-in-a-row warm urine bacterial culture tests, if everything goes to plan, then in around 2-3 months we will find that main pathogenic bacteria, and then do the autovaccine treatment against it.
I think that testing to find the main pathogenic bacteria can be very tricky in some cases, during my first consultation, Dr Igor Markov said that in one patient it took 15 urine bacterial cultures to finally find a hiding bacteria, so it was only on 15th time that they were able to culture it. And that patient got allot better only after 4 autovaccine shots for that bacteria. (I think by 15th time he meant that after five of 3-days-in-a-row warm urine bacterial culture tests - 5 X 3 = 15)
It sounds like this process is taking multiple months for you. So that sounds a little costly. Though I did check and I could fly there for about US$900 and stay for $500 a week plus eating and ground transport.Ukraine has very cheap lab tests compared to US, so the ticket and a week in hotel could pay off if you order all immune and pathogen testing that are used by some me/cfs doctors...
I will try to ask this Dr. Igor Markov next time, but I asked this question in the clinic and one of the med workers that worked for a long time in Markov's clinic said that one patient reported that he was only able have the bacteria cultured successfully when he drank beer before sleep.I wonder if there are any ways to provoke the growth of this culprit bacterium in the kidneys, so that it might be more easily detected?
But, I wonder, was any of this testing on your immune system? Do these autovaccines work if you're immunodeficient in any way? Like low NK cells or function, low B cells or gammaglobulins?
What about biofilms? Do these bacteria live in biofilms in the kidney tubules?
And what if these infections have stressed your system, creating oxidative and nitrosative stress, adrenal or thyroid hormone insufficiency, depleted nutrients, viral reactivations? How are those addressed with this program?
I wonder if there are any ways to provoke the growth of this culprit bacterium in the kidneys, so that it might be more easily detected?
I will try to drink beer 2-3 hours before sleep for the next 3-days bacteria culture tests and see if it works...
So, biofilms are in the majority of bacterial infections.I will try to ask this Dr. Igor Markov next time, but I asked this question in the clinic and one of the med workers that worked for a long time in Markov's clinic said that one patient reported that he was only able have the bacteria cultured successfully when he drank beer before sleep.
I tried this method, but because I have overactive bladder, I had to pee frequently during the night, and peeing frequently means that there won't be much bacteria to culture. I think it's better to have at least 5-6 hours of no bathroom breaks to be able to culture the bacteria successfully. (I tried to culture the bacteria for the first time while having frequent bathroom breaks during the night and nothing cultured)
Also, trying to remember to do the culturing in the mourning just makes this overactive bladder worse, because you get nervous and the bladder becomes even more active...
The only solution I found is to not drink any water 2 hours before sleep. only this way I can sleep through the night without going to the bathroom.
I will try to drink beer 2-3 hours before sleep for the next 3-days bacteria culture tests and see if it works...
I was tested for common autoimmune markers before the vaccine course (all negative/normal), specifically this:
I don't know the answer to your questions, but I would imagine being immunodeficient means you will need more vaccination cycles, this is just a guess thou.
- Immunoglobulin E (IgE)
- autoimmune standard panel (14 antigens)
- Complex determination of the immune status by flow cytometry (7 subpopulations of cells), Circulating Immune Complexes (CIC)
- Total immunoglobulins IgA, IgM, IgG and complement C3, C4
So, biofilms are in the majority of bacterial infections.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ab/2014/543974/
I'm not understanding how the autovaccines can get through the slimy biofilms to kill off the bacteria?
And what about Epstein Barr, HHV6, Cocksackie viruses,, etc?
This is a study about an extreme condition but see what you think about the cause and the remedy that is used.
HERPES VIRUSES ORAL SHEDDING IN CHRONIC RENAL PATIENTS
https://www.kireports.org/article/S2468-0249(16)30105-X/pdf
Worth a shot, I looked at the SGLT2 inhibitors listed on that wiki page, I can get Dapagliflozin or Empagliflozin locally...SGLT2 inhibitors are used for treating type 2 diabetes and work by increasing the kidneys excretion of glucose in the urine. A known adverse effect from SGLT2 inhibitors are urinary tract infections. Perhaps taking a SGLT2 inhibitor and increasing ones sugar intake a couple of days before the urine culture might increase the chance of finding the pathogen?
Before my treatment with the vaccines began Dr Igor Markov said that staphylococcus aureus is not the main bacteria that causes problems for me, we haven't found the main pathogenic bacteria yet, I hope we will find the bastard after a couple more 3-days-in-a-row warm urine bacterial culture tests, if everything goes to plan, then in around 2-3 months we will find that main pathogenic bacteria, and then do the autovaccine treatment against it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Markov had claimed that most patients' infections are caused by a few certain types of bacteria, and in light of this he was designing a "one size fits all" autovaccine which would eliminate the need for extensive testing with urine cultures?
I believe this is because they have 7 (if I remember correctly) 7 versions of already manufactured vaccines with different bacteria in each version, and they chose the right vaccine based on bacteria culture test results.Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Markov had claimed that most patients' infections are caused by a few certain types of bacteria, and in light of this he was designing a "one size fits all" autovaccine which would eliminate the need for extensive testing with urine cultures?
I think I wouldn't want to trial all 7 vaccine versions they have as vaccines increase autoimmunity, the stratedgy of trialing vaccines based on test results makes the process much safer then trialing all of them.Would this not go against Hipsman's process of needing months of testing in order to identify their specific bacterial infection? Why bother, why would Markov not just trial patients with a bunch of "common" autovaccines whilst simultaneously getting them tested?
I don't think this applies to Ukraine, Dr Igor Markov prescribed me already made vaccine for Staphylococcus that they manufacture (Staphylo-Primavac vaccine)That is correct, but a one-size-fits-all vaccine (it would be a vaccine, not an autovaccine), which targets the most common species of bacteria found in nephrodysbacteriosis/CBIS, would have to be developed in conjunction with a pharmaceutical company, and would have to undergo proper phase I to III clinical trials, which is a lengthy and expensive process taking many years.
You cannot legally create a new vaccine and use it on patients without it undergoing full clinical trials. That applies to all pharmaceuticals: they must be put through clinical trials before being brought to market.
By contrast, medical regulations allow you to create autovaccines using a bacterial sample from a patient, and use those vaccines on the same patient that the bacteria came from (but not on other patients). Hence the name autovaccine. Medical use of autovaccines dates back to the 1900s.
Inactivated cells of no less then 21 strains of Staphylococcus: Staphylococcus Aureus - 15 strains, Staphylococcus haemolyticus - 3 strains, Staphylococcus epidermidis - 3 strains. 1ml of vaccine contains no less then 1.5 billion inactivated bacterial cells"
I don't think this applies to Ukraine, Dr Igor Markov prescribed me already made vaccine for Staphylococcus that they manufacture (Staphylo-Primavac vaccine)