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I liked that I could provide an oxygen-free environment for my kefir, much like how traditional kefir was made: in a bladder hung by the door that people would hit on the way by to shake it up. A bladder is an anaerobic container. It allows gasses to escape but prevents oxygen from entering.
you’ll prevent high histamine levels in your finished fermented foods
This is interesting about probiotics, because I've been looking at natural gut bacteria and their production of biogenic amines as a possible cause of ME/CFS. The body's own enzyme defences against biogenic amines need to be reduced or poisoned in some way for this theory to work.
The use of probiotics which actually make these amine oxidase enzymes could thus be beneficial. But if the probiotic produces too many biogenic amines symptoms would worsen.
Anyway, here's the basic idea:
More information at: mepoisontheory.wordpress.com
Table 2: Some individual bacterial strains that influence the immune system [47].
Strain Effect
- L. casei Shirota Induced IL-12 production
- Heat-killed L. casei and L. fermentum Induced TNF-α production
- L. paracasei Ncc2461 Induced CD4+ T-cells to produce IL-10 and TGF-β
- L. rhamnosus GG with LPS Inhibited TNF-α,but not IL-10
- L. reuteri + L. brevis Induced TNF-α,IL-2,IL-1β
- L. rhamnasus + L. acidophilus + B. lactic Enhanced immunoreactivity of spleen cells and phagocytes
- L. acidophilis + L. delbrueckii ssp bulgaricus + B. bifidum Produced an anti-inflammatory response
- L. casei Shirota Inhibited translocation of NF-κB and production of IL-6
That's what I'm trying to find outIt seems like we would want to eliminate anything that induced TNF-a and IL1B/IL6, no?
Nope, sorry.. @Gondwanaland probably remembers which.
Here is a nice table listing many commonly available probiotics and their strains:
http://www.thecandidadiet.com/list-of-probiotics/
I'm not sure that they are the *best*, but it is a handy guide nonetheless.
It is only mentioned before the listIt's interesting that list does not have "Prescript-Assist" which is the only one that has worked for my SIBO
It's interesting that list does not have "Prescript-Assist" which is the only one that has worked for my SIBO