Daffodil
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i wonder if taking the yogurt with the injections might be worth a try...
Does anyone know the difference between Maf 314 and 878? Why is 314 difficult to prepare and 878 available? Does only Cheney provide 314 in US? I hear he offers two day classes to make it. Explain please. Thanks.
Sorry, i havent scanned the threads properly. Does Dr Enlander still provide MAF 314 or 878 on ebay?
I cant find it anymore.
There is a supplier of MAF 878 on ebay for US$120, but how do we know this isnt dodgy?
I hope this helps here.
MAF 314 contains probiotic bacteria that they are keeping under wraps.
The MAF 878 presumably contains different bacteria.
The source of GcMAF in these yoghurts is the colostrum. The amount of GcMAF in colostrum can vary widely during the time after the cow giving birth. Hence the strength of GcMAF can vary even for individual suppliers.
Don Lewis in Melbourne made some MAF 314 and it was extra strong!!
AND
it works not on a linear scale - so doubling the dose can give maybe a 10 fold increase in effect.
This effect means that some people can get massive herxing etc.
Start LOW and start SLOW
Heapsreal
These things contain probiotics.
Colostrum is made so that the calf gets its immunity up and running.
It contains a number of things such as lauric acid/monolaurin (which by itself stimulates the immunity)
and vitamin D binding protein which is the precursor of GcMAF.
The assay of GcMAF is not easy and so the actual presence has not been confirmed as far as i know.
But it is said that the GcMAF does come from the colostrum, with some people saying that it is the bacteria producing the GcMAF (i may have some more info some where)
I have thought about this a bit , maybe put in a thread here.
Somebody in Brisbane, who shall be nameless, started on colostrum. This person he used the full dose and then cut it down a bit. He herxed a lot. This GcMAF thing can be very very potent. He may have been using say 10-20-50 x the dose needed.
The thing is with GcMAF and the MAFs the dose Versus effect is not linear, So doubling the dose can give maybe 10-50 the herxing OUCH!!
So this person may have given his immune system a super Boost & over herxed. (hint) I dont know.
Here is a paper on a digested milk preparation which is interesting.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2667481/
This whole area is open for further developments.
Cheers GcMAF
Heaps nobody knows, Supposedly the 314 is the number of probiotics that they tried before they had some success.Interesting, so are probiotics/bacteria fed colostrum and the maf comes from that??
Must be more to it then that as there are a few products on the market with colostrum and probiotics in them. A few things i have justread are saying colostrum works in the gut which is how it boost immune system. even if one cant get maf, maybe colostrum and probiotics can help people with gut issues?? Maybe it helps feed these probiotics??