Hi Freddd--yes sure that's a good idea. Will they do adenysol also? I hadn't thought of that.
I'm going to start with folapro and hydroxy--sprinkle doses and see what happens. I feel that since I was active, exercising and travelling the world until lyme slymed me (although I did have other problems such as undiagnosed celiac, and of course I have mercury poisoning from a zillion fillings when I was a teen)...that I probably convert B12's okay...I don't want to detox too badly like Lisa described...I need to go slow and careful...
Hi Jenbooks,
I asked about adenosylb12 last year. They said it would be more expensive, at least in part because they have doubts about being able to sell an entire batch. If they had an assured markey for the entire purchase of crystal adenosylb12 made into product, the price might be lower than he thought. Another posibility, if you can get a prescription, is that a 1mg injection is about 60 cents which is actually less costly than a custom sublingual but not much different than drops would be. The problem with drops is the low time in contact with tissue problem. You need something to hold it there. Maybe injected into a small apple slice and putiing that under the tongue or something. I donm't know an answer. I'm just speculating out loud on this. I'm going up there tomorrow and if you can answer today that would be good so I can have ideas to discuss tomorrow.
I would like to say that you can order 10 gram minimiums of crystal your self from certain sources. I have considered that too.
A comment I would like to make about "point of view". How we talk about things is definitely influenced by point of view and a theoretical basis on which we base our thinking. This applies to everybody. So Person X has a point of view on one basis and person Y on a different basis. Persons X and Y see a set of symptoms following a sequence of supplements. They both see the same things. Have you read the Sufi story of the 4 blind men and the elephant" or "The Dermis Probe" in a more modern version? The 4 blind men are all describing one small piece of the elepant and yet their descriptions appear entirely at odds when one doesn't know that each one is describing only the leg, trunk, side or tail. So Person X sees a sequence and results and calls it "Detox reaction" and Person "Y" calls it "Intensified deficiency symptoms". These sound contradictory and yet are not necessarily mutually exculsive. They may just be a way of describing somethinmg based on a different aspect of it or a different understanding based on differnt theoretical basis. So calling it a "detox reaction expressed as intensification of symptoms normally associated with xyz deficiency" makes the combination.
The question might then come down to the predictions mad by applying either part or all of the description. In my case of when I took the glutathione producing precursors I rapidly had a set of reactive symptoms. In reading up on glutathione and that it encourages "detox" one might certainly be encouraged to think of my set of symptoms as a "detox" reaction. The symptoms appear to fit in the set of symptoms one finds when searching for such;
* low Energy * achy muscles * light headedness * headaches * flu like symptoms* coated tongue * runny nose or allergy symptoms * stomach aches * uneasy digestive tract * Fevers * feeling like throwing up * and sometimes old symptoms that have been suppressed. * http://www.beccashealthtips.com/symptoms.html
These also fit into the b12 and folate deficiency symptoms list. Becasue of my viewpoint, I called them deficiency symptoms. I discontinued glutathione producing precurors and the symptomns stayed. If they are indeed induced deficiency symptoms then that would predict that if the deficiencies they induce were to treated with those items that the symptoms would go away, pretty promptly as has been my experierience.
I took more methylb12 and some went away, within days. I took more potassium and some were reduced or went away within hours to days. I took more calcium and some reduced or went away within hours to days. I took more methylfolate and all that remained went away starting in hours within 3 days after hanging on for 6 months after discontinuing glutathione precursors. These included very specifically the runny nose and allergy type symptoms, low energy, headaches and achy muscles and some other old symptoms like angular cheilitis, brainfog and depressed mood.
In identifying 4 items that corrected symptoms associated with their deficiencies, almost all of the symptoms associated with the glutathione precursors quicklly were relieved as would be expected with correcting induced deficiencies. I am quite confident that if I had though to try the increased methylfolate doses earlier I could have saved myself of 6 months of unmpleasantness. But I though that 800mcg of methytlfolate ought to be plenty as it had been the previous 2 years. Right now I am taking 2400mg twice a day of methylfolate. There is no b12 visible in my urine at all and hasn't been for 4 days now except a very slight amount once.
So, whatever else glutathione and precursors do, they appear to detox the body of methylb12, potassium, calcium and methylfolate.
Both views can exist at thje same time and lead to a treatment that works if understood and applied in that way. My pharmacist gave the hint about perhaps it was causiong the faster excretion of one or more items.
