What has helped you with sleep/insomnia - post links

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You did so well without it, 7.5 hours (!), I think I would wait a bit before adding anything else in ... Good sleep is priceless! Although, on the other hand, I haven't seen anything negative from the taurine ... How's that for being helpful? 😄
Yeah, agreed, and I didn't mean now... down the road after ensuring things are stable.
 
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Made 2 changes...dropped theanine and also switched to magnesium glycinate. Slept so much better. 7.5 hours with only 1 wake up in between. Yay 😆
That's really good news, I'm so glad :woot::woot::woot: :thumbsup: ..... I struggled with insomnia (still do occasionally) for several years, and it's one of the most soul-sucking, brain hammering, spirit destroying imbalances around ....
 
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Another decent night of sleep! I'm going to add more glycine in the form of collagen protein to see if this trend continues. I've also lowered my folinic acid dose.
Once I conquered my GABA/glutamate issues (and, like @Mary, my intense sensitivity to ANYTHING MSG, something I still have to be careful about), I slowly added back very small amounts of gelatin, which is a rich source of glycine, and I've found that it really does seem to help with sleep ....

I don't use collagen because after some limited experimentation I found that gelatin provided the same benefits and was cheaper, as well as being less processed. The arguments about collagen's greater bioavailabilty seem unsupportable to me since your body would utilize both of them in the same way, ie, for whatever it needed at the time. It would simply take whatever aminos required to produce the necessary protein chain and move on.
 

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That's really good news, I'm so glad :woot::woot::woot: :thumbsup: ..... I struggled with insomnia (still do occasionally) for several years, and it's one of the most soul-sucking, brain hammering, spirit destroying imbalances around ....
It is soul crushing! I've had sleep issues for 7 years now which I believe has resulted in the ridiculous amount of hair graying I have. My sleep isn't perfect though, as I still am using melatonin as well, but I don't feel like trash all day so far. The next experiment will be a workout to see what happens then. That's the worst inducer of insomnia and just an overall feeling of trash.
 
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My sleep isn't perfect though, as I still am using melatonin
I use melatonin, too. In very small amounts. I take 1/2 a mg. about 30 minutes before bedtime, and the other half at lights out. I take a meager teaspoon of gelatin a little before the first 1/2 mg of melatonin, and most of the time, it works brilliantly.

When I go thru intractable insomnia (usually linked to any amount of emotional stress, which right now can range from the minimal to making a phone call to paying bills or dealing with a mis-delivery from Amazon), I take 1/2 a Unisom (which for me works like a total miracle, whereas nothing else in that medication class does), which generally will knock me out within 35-40 minutes and keep me asleep til I cant ignore the alarm anymore ....


I'm really happier than I can say about your being able to get some decent sleep. Interesting to see how working out will affect that ....
 

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I'm going to keep increasing glycine and collagen intake until I get to the level Dr Masterjohn recommends, 1-2g collagen per 10 grams of regular protein.
 

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I use melatonin, too. In very small amounts. I take 1/2 a mg. about 30 minutes before bedtime, and the other half at lights out. I take a meager teaspoon of gelatin a little before the first 1/2 mg of melatonin, and most of the time, it works brilliantly.

When I go thru intractable insomnia (usually linked to any amount of emotional stress, which right now can range from the minimal to making a phone call to paying bills or dealing with a mis-delivery from Amazon), I take 1/2 a Unisom (which for me works like a total miracle, whereas nothing else in that medication class does), which generally will knock me out within 35-40 minutes and keep me asleep til I cant ignore the alarm anymore ....

I'm really happier than I can say about your being able to get some decent sleep. Interesting to see how working out will affect that ....
Thanks for that. I'll keep updating.