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I think this ^ belongs to Dr. van der Meer..
Shame it's not been fired.
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I think this ^ belongs to Dr. van der Meer..
Heck, we can all email the newspaper. I would be even more surprised if the journalist did not know English.Is it possible to e-mail this newspaper and ask them to interview the WPI and let them contradict Van der Meer's words?
And Fred - Please, use it as much as you'd like :Retro smile:
Hi folks,
Here is a link where you can add comments in English: http://www.gelderlander.nl/voorpagi...treden-vermoeidheidstest.ece?start=2&sort=asc
The more vocal and public Van der Meer is, the better.... this makes it all the easier to illuminate what we have been up against. Mark my words, as soon as the European blood services start banning blood from ME/CFS patients, VDM will start looking ridiculous. And once those positive studies come in, and (as per Ruscetti's prediction) the issue of XMRV in ME/CFS patients is settled, we can go for the jugular. Probably, we won't need to, because there will be a massive distancing by government big-wigs from the psycholobby. Rats leaving a sinking ship.
I'm not at all surprised to hear this blustering from the psycholobby. Amp it up guys - we're hanging on your every word... and copying it. BTW... see you in court.:Retro smile:
When posting a comment online, does the comment appear automatically? I just posted one and it is not showing up.
When posting a comment online, does the comment appear automatically? I just posted one and it is not showing up.
And bless your little cotton socks too pollycbr125 and Rivotril (in a good way). Your post, pic, and thread made the Dutch media here:http://translate.google.ca/translat...hl=en&lr=&newwindow=1&tbo=p&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=ln !aw bless his little cotton socks :Sign Good one:
And bless your little cotton socks too pollycbr125 and Rivotril (in a good way). Your post, pic, and thread made the Dutch media.
aw bless his little cotton socks :Sign Good one:
must remember to use this pic in any future correspondance with wessley and co , so true what they say a face can speak a thousand words
Your post, pic, and thread made the Dutch media here.
Hopefully this version will do well....
Anger over controversial fatigue test
Thursday, May 6, 2010 | 8:07 | Last updated: Thursday, May 6, 2010 | 8:36
NIJMEGEN - The Radboud Hospital condemns the decision of the Whittemore Peterson Institute in Reno (USA) for offering a presently controversial test to detect a fatgue virus (XMRV) . According to Professor of Internal Medicine Jos van der Meer of the UMC St Radboud there still rages plenty of discussion about whether the test (cost: 650 euros) is reliable.
He himself is not convinced of the existence of the fatigue virus. "when you're offering such a test at this moment, you're doing wrong. The marketbased-thinking then dominates at the expense of scientific reliability. "
The Nijmegen hospital since last year embroiled in a fierce controversy about whether chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) is caused by a virus. The American Institute in October pretended to have found evidence for a blood test with which the virus can be verified. This would be found in two thirds of patients.
Nijmegen researchers found no pathogenic agent with the same test. According to the Nijmegen laboratory scientists, the U.S. laboratory is probably contaminated. "In this kind of testing this is common, it's a known problem."
The two camps both hold the view that they personally did run the test in a correct way