Vaccine-triggered CFS linked to nasopharynx inflammation, and 81% cured or improved by treating this nasopharyngitis

[godlovesatrier]

Pretty convinced I have this due to my feeling inflamed in the throat area when on work calls this single symptom is tons worse post COVId. I've also got very bad noise sensitivity, clearing my throat a lot and have very recently had a lot of phlegm back there. Maybe it will improve my response to season colds as well. As I get them all the time and they make the long covid much worse.

Am also hoping it might improve my chronic allergy reactions but that's prob wishful thinking.

 

[godlovesatrier]

@Hip

This is super interesting https://www.proquest.com/docview/2706242211?sourcetype=Scholarly Journals

This study shows that il-6 is lowered by EAT and il-6 is a huge contributor to allergic response to allergens and of course ebv loves il-6 too and il-6 is raised in long covid patients who don't respond to boosters (iwasaki 2023).

So I'm quite excited about this treatment now. It seems like the most plausible attack vector for the chronic congestion (much milder this week) which I think is due to a reservoir in the tissues EAT gets at. When I take low dose hydrocortisone my symptoms of brainfog almost entirely vanish for an hour. But then I crash of course probably due to immune suppression.

If you search the study for allergies you'll find the il-6 citation for EAT with the relevant paper as well.

 

[hapl808]

Has anyone discussed with Dr Hotta recently or seen recent reports from patients? Didn't we have a forum member who received the treatment in Japan and didn't improve - I can't remember exactly.

Since my onset was temporally consistent with the Hep B vaccine, and I have a lot of postnasal acid reflux issues, it really interests me. If I were less sick I would travel to Japan for it, but if I were less sick I guess I might not need it.

 

[Gzephyr]

Has anyone tried this therapy with some luck? I’m thinking an about purchasing some kind of zinc spray or nasal rinse. I believe a lot of my CFS symptoms stem from nasopharyngeal inflammation. I can feel it burning back there when I’m in a flare. My neck gets stiff and hurts, my tinnitus worsens, my ears canals burn, I get a headache, and my fatigue and pain worsen

 

[Gloria H]

No Q Tips for me, thanks. My way may take time but it’s gentle and effective. I’m using Zinc Status [1 mg zinc sulfate/1 tsp distilled water] while lying on my back, dropping a few drops into each nasal passage and allowing it to run back to nasopharynx area of my throat where mucus formation urges throat clearing and hawking. I know that liquid I drop in my nose when I lay on my back, runs till it drops into the nasopharynx. I can feel it. I’m happy to have come across your zinc application info. I started 5 days ago, repeating once or twice a day. Previous to that I had a sinus cold which phased out with post nasal stuff I could sometimes see but commonly feel. After gargling with 1 tsp sea salt/1 cup water and hawking, I could often dislodge globs from my throat which at first were bloody. Now, since starting the Zinc Status, I’m having less post nasal stuff happening and it’s more liquid. My right ear got fluid in as the cold resolved so I want that gone too. I’ll be experimenting with how many drops I use.

 

[Hip]

I’m using Zinc Status [1 mg zinc sulfate/1 tsp distilled water] while lying on my back, dropping a few drops into each nasal passage and allowing it to run back to nasopharynx area of my throat where mucus formation urges throat clearing and hawking.

Did you see the warning that zinc nasal sprays can sometimes damage the sense of smell? The olfactory organ is shown at the top of your diagram. Not sure if your dripping method gets any zinc onto the olfactory organ.

 

[Gloria H]

Did you see the warning that zinc nasal sprays can sometimes damage the sense of smell? The olfactory organ is shown at the top of your diagram. Not sure if your dripping method gets any zinc onto the olfactory organ.

I did see that warning, but thanks. I would probably have to stand on my head to get drops into the olfactory organ as shown on the diagram.

 

[chilove]

No Q Tips for me, thanks. My way may take time but it’s gentle and effective. I’m using Zinc Status [1 mg zinc sulfate/1 tsp distilled water] while lying on my back, dropping a few drops into each nasal passage and allowing it to run back to nasopharynx area of my throat where mucus formation urges throat clearing and hawking. I know that liquid I drop in my nose when I lay on my back, runs till it drops into the nasopharynx. I can feel it. I’m happy to have come across your zinc application info. I started 5 days ago, repeating once or twice a day. Previous to that I had a sinus cold which phased out with post nasal stuff I could sometimes see but commonly feel. After gargling with 1 tsp sea salt/1 cup water and hawking, I could often dislodge globs from my throat which at first were bloody. Now, since starting the Zinc Status, I’m having less post nasal stuff happening and it’s more liquid. My right ear got fluid in as the cold resolved so I want that gone too. I’ll be experimenting with how many drops I use.
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Have you noticed any improvements Gloria?

 

[Angel Bryan]

The incidence of reactions to vaccinations is very low and the numbers frequently conflated. Often the only evidence is anecdotal.

Sounds like the old antivaxxer trope that vaccines cause autoimmune diseases. They don't and science studies show this.

[url]http://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/video/do-vaccines-cause-autoimmune-or-chronic-[/URL]

That vaccines cause autoimmune diseases. ASIA does not exist and statistics bear this out. An interesting hypothesis at one time that just didn't pan out.

Narcolepsy, as far as I know is not an autoimmune disorder.

There are some statisticians who claim that the incidence of Narcolepsy may not be that much greater than what you would expect in the general population with or without vaccinations. But as you say, the jury is still out about this issue and tbh, I have not followed this issue closely enough to know if the thinking on this has changed or not.

The study design is lacking in quality. No control group, self report, etc. as well as authors who are biased that a nonexistent condition exists.

I'm not saying reactions don't occur with vaccines, pardon the double negative, but they are few and far between. I feel for those who do experience a reaction and wouldn't wish it on anyone.

If this theory was backed by good scientific evidence, I would go with that.

It has been well known and for more than a decade now, that the HPV vaccine causes ME/CFS, which is by the way what caused mine.

It has been the most traumatic thing I've experienced, It destroyed my life and dragged me into a nightmare that I can't get out of.

I am sorry, but I had to log in just to replay to these comments as it enrages me seeing people dismissing and negating the horrible adverse effects of this vaccine. There is no day that I don't regret it and I would give everything to go back in time and not taking it.

Getting back on topic, I will be trying the Ephipharyngeal Abrassive Therapy although I will be using iodine solution rather than zinc chloride as I've seen it has worked for some people with Long COVID and I am not risking my sense of smell.