B12 sources that make me jittery (above 1mcg) AND help enormously (at 1mcg or below):
Perque (hydroxy), Sisu (methyl), clams, crab. Maybe egg yolks and cheeses.
B12 sources that don't make me jittery (even above 4mcg) AND have no discernible health effect:
Beef, pork, lamb, goat, chicken, turkey, tuna, trout.
4mcg from sources on the first list would probably make me hallucinate, based on my reaction to 2mcg.
Does this tell you anything? Or do you have any ideas who I could consult about it, here or elsewhere?
Hi @
NilaJones
I can only share from my own experience here.
I have had extensive adrenal difficulties. My reading/learning has been that with chronic health problems adrenals are always involved as is liver toxicity & such.
What I would do if I was having your symptoms:
a)
B12 sources that make me jittery (above 1mcg) AND help enormously (at 1mcg or below)
Don't try to up these. Stick with them at a dose that does not make you jittery. Your tolerance will increase over time. You could experiment with upping them gradually once you have had a stable 2 weeks or so, & you are emotionally prepared for the jittery-ness. In my experience the jittery-ness was part of the process of reawakening neural pathways related to energy metabolism. I read about some of this in Freddd's posts. It is an uncomfortable process, but for me was temporary. It still happens though now when I up dosages of things that are reactivating those pathways. It doesn't happen any more with folate & B12, but will with my St. John's Wort for example. These neurotransmitter pathways have been inactive for a long time with me, & reactivation is somewhat uncomfortable and painful. That's why I feel that the emotional preparation is key, but I already know that you are good with creating space around times when you are upping things and doing them on days that you are doing less.
Eventually if you are emotionally okay with it - you may want to experiment with the possibility of if you stayed at 1.25 mcg for example, whether the jittery-ness would dissipate after a few days & your body would readjust at the new dose. But my sense is that you all already have a sense of titrating up for you - because that is what you have been doing for the past year.
b)
B12 sources that don't make me jittery (even above 4mcg) AND have no discernible health effect:
Up these, alot. These are likely foundation building for you. Don't make the mistake thinking that they are not doing anything. Especially with the meat sources they are going to help support your adrenal glands. During my healing I had to eat meat, a lot of it. As much as I could tolerate in fact. It was a
critical part of my healing.
My hunch is that with the more agitating forms of B12 the jittery-ness - you are getting jittery for one of two reasons:
a) intense detox symptoms & reactivation of neural pathways
b) histamine response from leaky gut problems. One can't make any sense of leaky gut symptoms - i.e. why do I react to this, and not this.
It could be that these meat sources do have a different concentration of types of B12 as I think you were speaking of before. But I don't know if you will ever be able to determine this.
Generally with the jittery foods - I wouldn't necessarily avoid them at this point if you feel at smaller doses they are beneficial, I would just be wary.
For heavy metal detox: I would really encourage you to connect with Theresa Vernon, & do a hair test with her. She is *amazing.* The approach is a bit of a "mind-bend" in that basically you are on a bunch of multivitamins - one with plain folate in it, but just like everything you would have to go slow if you decide to take the vitamins. Nonetheless you could get her feedback about your current metal statuses & mineral imbalances.
All the very best, & ciao for now
S
