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The Onset Poll

My Kind of Onset Was

  • Acute infectious onset (flu-like symptoms) out of the blue - no significant stress otherwise - I wa

    Votes: 97 27.5%
  • Acute infectious onset (flu-like symptoms) while I was experiencing a period of increased stress or

    Votes: 110 31.2%
  • Gradual infectious onset (flu-like symptoms): I experienced a series of infectious events that dragg

    Votes: 47 13.3%
  • Acute non-infectious onset (no colds, no flu-like symptoms) following a stressful event (eg acciden

    Votes: 21 5.9%
  • Acute non-infectious onset (no colds, no flu-like symptoms) out of the blue

    Votes: 9 2.5%
  • Gradual onset out of the blue during a period when I was feeling fine

    Votes: 32 9.1%
  • Gradual onset during a period of increased stress

    Votes: 37 10.5%

  • Total voters
    353

manna

Senior Member
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of course you're right about the no anti-biotics for a virus...duh moment, i actually knew that, honest! thanks for correction. Though I'd guess folks with a virus maybe prescribed them all the same, as you might be implying. Question then is, I wonder how many folks were pre-scribed anti-biotics prior to onset and that triggered the illness rather than what they were prescribed for.

id agree too that vaccines can trigger environmental illnesses.
 
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Little Bluestem

All Good Things Must Come to an End
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Was it the flu or the treatment taken to combat it that triggered illness?
I've certainly asked myself that. I took an antibiotic, despite my bad history with them, because I was not able to take time off from work at that time and did not think I would make it otherwise.

I am prone to rebound infections after taking antibiotics. I got the Mother of All Rebound Infections after that one. Fortunately I was past my work deadline, because I was barely able to walk across the house. Actually, the second time I planned to (to get to the phone), I just couldn't make it off of the sofa and fell asleep/passed out until my landlady came home from work. I don't even remember how many days of work I missed. Those first several days are completely lost in the fog.

I wonder if I would have recovered if I hadn't got the antibiotic rebound infection.
 

manna

Senior Member
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I wonder if I would have recovered if I hadn't got the antibiotic rebound infection.

Hi, this is what I'm getting at. I've heard, more times than I can count, about people who got ill following a virus/infection etc but the question of teatment/meds taken at the time of this onset is never taken into account. anti-biotics, along with steroid meds and the birth control pill, are all top of the list, as prime causes, on the candida questionairres that i have encountered.

rebound infections occur, imo, because antibiotics make you highly acidic, thus killing microbes, but mild acidity, which microbes love and thrive in, is what's left when hyper-acidity, caused by the anti-biotics, leaves the system. its highly possible that the mildly acidic environment loved by microbes, may not have occurred if there had been no anti-biotic intervention.
 
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Hi Cort,

I had a mild version of the symptoms all my life, but after an Epstein-Barr infection ...
Little_bird, in what way did the symptoms show until you catched the EBV? It retrospective, after having been diagnosed with ME/CFS, I realized I've been intolerant to physical strain at least since my teens. Trying to keep up with my friends in the running track often triggered the breakout of (latent i guess) respiratory infections, fever, diarrhea, body ache and impaired cognitive capabilities (like studying).