What I posted above that started this string also mentions those substances that SHEILD FROM PEM AND REDUCE PEM after it's hit you.
https://forums.phoenixrising.me/thr...vent-pem-post-exertional-malaise.48438/page-6
So late last night after my first full day of MISERABLE FATIGUE, I discovered I did have
CoQ10 (ubiquinol) and
creatine monohydrate. So this morning, feeling absolutely horrible with fatigue again, I took both over the next few hours: Over 2000 mg ubiquinol and 10,000 mg of creatine monohydrate. (I have ordered the creatine hydrochloride).
And by 2 pm today, I was feeling noticeably better!!
BUT....it all went south by late afternoon and evening. Felt horrible again.
UPDATE: continued the high CoQ10 the next day, today, and felt significantly less tired.
I will say this: several years ago, when I had monster fatigue while detoxing heavy metals, I discovered that high dose CoQ10 did help a lot to counter that fatigue. I was close to 3000 mg ubiquinol.