Breaking Through The Fog
Where do we get IVs from??
Wonder if ozone would work.
@Rufous McKinney -- Unfortunately, I don't have the details on that.
Below is another article (Mercola)...
Vitamins C and D Finally Adopted as Coronavirus Treatment
Snippet from Article:
Vitamin C Is a Vastly Underutilized Antiviral 'Drug'
According to Dr. Ronald Hunninghake, an internationally recognized expert on vitamin C who has personally supervised tens of thousands of intravenous (IV) vitamin C administrations, vitamin C is "definitely a very underutilized modality in infectious disease," considering "it's really a premiere treatment" for infections.
In my interview with him, Hunninghake suggested one of the reasons why conventional medicine has been so slow to recognize the importance of vitamin C has to do with the fact that they've been looking at it as a mere vitamin, when in fact it's a potent oxidizing agent that can help eliminate pathogens when given in high doses.
There is a letter published in the Journal of Critical Care from Italian pulmonologists who believe that it's not ARDS but more like HAPE (High Altitude Pulmonary Edema) picture. That's based on the fact that oxygen exchange looks really good and hypoxia is due to loss of local blood pressure regulation (maybe something to do with ACE2 receptor?). If that's the case, than the ventilator settings need to be pretty much the exact opposite of what they are using now and the current respiratory protocols might be causing more harm than good.
Hmm... I'm confused, how can it be an oxidizing agent and an antioxidant at the same time?
I don’t know enough chemistry to understand the hydrogen peroxide conversion but the one concern I have with Vit C is that it increases iron absorption, which might be counterproductive.@Iritu1021 -- Good question, it does seem contradictory. I'm no scientist, but my best plausibe explanation (guess) would be that Vitamin C itself is an antioxidant. But when given in high doses during an infection, the body converts it into hydrogen peroxide, which is an oxidant. -- One other way of oxidizing viruses would be to use ozone therapy, which I tend to think might be even more effective than Vitamin C.
I have hemachromatosis, and have done high dose vitamin C, so have looked into this. There are a variety of opinions on this, from don't take C to it doesn't matter. The basic answer is that:I don’t know enough chemistry to understand the hydrogen peroxide conversion but the one concern I have with Vit C is that it increases iron absorption, which might be counterproductive.
6. Prevention and treatment of cytokine storm: It is recommended to use large doses of vitamin C and unfractionated heparin. Large doses of vitamin C are injected intravenously at a dose of 100 to 200 mg / kg per day. The duration of continuous use is to significantly improve the oxygenation index. The use of large Dose of the broad-spectrum protease inhibitor ulinastatin, given 1.6 million units, once every 8 h, under mechanical ventilation, when the oxygenation index> 300 mmHg can be reduced to 1 million units / d. Anticoagulation can be taken The treatment protects endothelial cells and reduces the release of cytokines. When FDP ≥ 10 µg / mL and / or D-dimer ≥ 5 μg / mL, heparin (3-15 IU / kg per hour) is given anticoagulation. Heparin is used for the first time. The patient's coagulation function and platelets must be re-examined 4 h later. ISVVH is used for 6 to 10 h every day.
It also might be that the iron absorption effect only refers to the oral route of administration.I have hemachromatosis, and have done high dose vitamin C, so have looked into this. There are a variety of opinions on this, from don't take C to it doesn't matter. The basic answer is that:
As far as pro-oxidant and antioxidant, both are needed for various reasons. Harnessing them and using them appropriately is needed.
- Vitamin C is incredibly important for immune function, adrenal function, recycling glutathione, peroxynitrite reduction, collagen production, etc, and in this case, oxidizing infectious agents
- high iron is bad, so keep ahead of it with phlebotomies.
Add to that the fact that 85% of patients in China were given TCM herbs in addition to Western medicine and all of the population was placed on herbal prophylaxis which was already developed during SARS and MERS epidemics.From the Expert consensus on comprehensive treatment of coronavirus disease in Shanghai 2019
I really loosing my temper with the western arrogance wanting to do everything in standard ways, without willingness to learn anything from the east.