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Same here.I myself have never been much of a "forum person", but yrs ago I found the PR forum and had to join
Same here.I myself have never been much of a "forum person", but yrs ago I found the PR forum and had to join
I don't think it's presumptuous.This is a bit presumptuous. I myself have never been much of a "forum person", but yrs ago I found the PR forum and had to join.
not trying to attach anything negative to our peeps here folks.Same here.
I know you're not saying anything negative. I was just saying the observation might be incorrectnot trying to attach anything negative to our peeps here folks.
just an observation.
hey I hear you, and understand where you're coming from.I know you're not saying anything negative. I was just saying the observation might be incorrect
Like, you said ...
"this forum population is a specific type of people. ones that are on forums and such.
not generalizable perhaps."
I lean towards the population of PR forum being very general overall. It's likely that ME/CFS people that have always been super into chat forums, reddit, etc gravitated to this forum quicker than others w/ ME/CFS... but we all end up researching online looking for answers. If you stumble on PR forum in the process, there's a good chance you'll join, ask questions, and participate.
I think the population here is anyone w/ ME/CFS or LC that has an internet connection and knows how to use a search engine. I guess this might rule a out a small %
Yes, completely healed my 10 years worth of stomach problems. I did 6 weeks on, daily injections, 2 weeks off, then 6 weeks on again. Permanently healed me. Then my sister manifested all sorts of gut issues as well, put her on the same regimen, and she's completely healed as wellany folks tried the LL-37 peptide?
I was suggested I alternate it with Thymosin alpha 1 (which has helped me tremendously) but I'm a bit hesitant to take out something that has helped so much for an unknown.
thanks!
What GI symptoms did you and your sister have? What dose did you use?Yes, completely healed my 10 years worth of stomach problems. I did 6 weeks on, daily injections, 2 weeks off, then 6 weeks on again. Permanently healed me. Then my sister manifested all sorts of gut issues as well, put her on the same regimen, and she's completely healed as well
wow that's really amazing.Yes, completely healed my 10 years worth of stomach problems. I did 6 weeks on, daily injections, 2 weeks off, then 6 weeks on again. Permanently healed me. Then my sister manifested all sorts of gut issues as well, put her on the same regimen, and she's completely healed as well
The agreed upon dosage by a number of researchers and peptide sellers was "100mcg of LL-37 injected subcutaneously twice a day (once in morning and once at night) for 4-6 weeks,"What GI symptoms did you and your sister have? What dose did you use?
Wow im surprised this happened to you. I would still try again, but take extremely low dosages and slowly titrate up as you monitor reactionswow that's really amazing.
I took it for 4-5 days and it has tanked my health beyond any level I've yet felt.
seems like it really works for some and others have a terrible reaction.
Wow im surprised this happened to you. I would still try again, but take extremely low dosages and slowly titrate up as you monitor reactions
Yes, I would do it again, because I have had experiences with a variety of supplements, foods, vitamins, peptides and so on, that taking an entire normal dose wrecked me and gave me a crash. But then re-exploring those same substances I had tried and failed with before, and going about it in extremely lose doses and titrating back up, allowed me to experience a new found modality of having a variety of healing effects and detox effects from them.you would really try it again if it tanked your health to where you could barely get out of bed?
you may have more faith or something than i.
though I do think you're correct if I were to try again to start low and go slow.
thank you for sharing. really appreciate you taking the time to elaborate on this.Yes, I would do it again, because I have had experiences with a variety of supplements, foods, vitamins, peptides and so on, that taking an entire normal dose wrecked me and gave me a crash. But then re-exploring those same substances I had tried and failed with before, and going about it in extremely lose doses and titrating back up, allowed me to experience a new found modality of having a variety of healing effects and detox effects from them.
For example, I used metformin to heal my Myelin sheath at low doses, where at higher doses I did not have good effects from it initially. Same thing when I did low dose 1 year long ABX therapy for mycoplasma, it game me a subtle and long healing effect and got rid of what was ailing me, as oppose to higher dosages of ABX gave me horrible effects.
Of course, each persons gut biome, blood type, Ph balance, what ails them, genetics, and on and on is different and unique, so it very well could be that LL-37 isnt for you. But for me and several others, it has been absolutely miraculous
LL-37 was itself, a major revelation for my own path to healing and the use of Peptides, which I've barely scratched the surface on. I have had tremendous success with LL-37, GDF11, and BPC-157 has given me, and about 10 people in my own circle of friends and family, amazing healings from all sorts of issues. I even took BPC-157 orally and had various nootropic effects and gut healing effects as well. But of course, that brings me to your message, you mention bad bacteria overgrowth, so this is all has to be addressed in whatever numerous ways possible in order for you to start to experience the benefits of various peptides.thank you for sharing. really appreciate you taking the time to elaborate on this.
I think im gonna do just that and try go slow (which is against my natural conditioning so a bit tough)
I really do think both TA1 and ll37 can be game changers cause I have "bad" bacteria overgrowth and fungal growth in my gut so this could be a huge improvement in my condition if I do find a way to go at it.
I'll probably even start at 50 mcg and stay there for a week before moving up or some such thing.
thanks again. and really happy it helped yo
how much over all improvement in your ME would you say came from LL-37?
KPV is on my list to try as well. Unfortunately, I used to source from Purerawz, and I believe they are now under new ownership, and are now impossible to deal with or to receive anything from here in the states. Will never attempt again to deal with them, so now I'm trying to find a proper source for peptidesVery interesting @beatsmyth thanks. I'd read ll-37 was degraded extremely fast in the body but I'm figuring that must be wrong as it obviously had worked for a few people here.
Anyway you've made me realise it's worth trying. I totally rely on other peprides for asthma recovery and chest infection recovery. Kpv was a total game changer - all asthmatics should be taking it. It would save millions in steroid treatments.
Thanks for the info.
hey again,Yes, I would do it again, because I have had experiences with a variety of supplements, foods, vitamins, peptides and so on, that taking an entire normal dose wrecked me and gave me a crash. But then re-exploring those same substances I had tried and failed with before, and going about it in extremely lose doses and titrating back up, allowed me to experience a new found modality of having a variety of healing effects and detox effects from them.
For example, I used metformin to heal my Myelin sheath at low doses, where at higher doses I did not have good effects from it initially. Same thing when I did low dose 1 year long ABX therapy for mycoplasma, it game me a subtle and long healing effect and got rid of what was ailing me, as oppose to higher dosages of ABX gave me horrible effects.
Of course, each persons gut biome, blood type, Ph balance, what ails them, genetics, and on and on is different and unique, so it very well could be that LL-37 isnt for you. But for me and several others, it has been absolutely miraculous
10% of what you dosed before appears to be a good amount. If you are still having negative side effects, perhaps at the end of the day, this just isnt going to work no matter what due to the already pre-existing conditions associated with your current condition, which, if they were addressed first, would allow the peptide to work its magic, but is instead, just stirring up more inflammation.hey again,
so you mentioned starting again with extremely low doses?
how extreme?
I've went down to like 10% of what my practitioner recommended and I'm still feeling totally wiped out by tb frag. ( I know not one you used at time of post, but they are all doing it)
thanks for the reply.10% of what you dosed before appears to be a good amount. If you are still having negative side effects, perhaps at the end of the day, this just isnt going to work no matter what due to the already pre-existing conditions associated with your current condition, which, if they were addressed first, would allow the peptide to work its magic, but is instead, just stirring up more inflammation.
I did a year of low dose antibiotics to address a mycoplasma infection causing the majority of my CFS (along with realizing I cant eat gluten), so I went in to my peptide usage having already addressed underlying issues. Several other people who have successfully used LL-37 to address and fully heal their gut issues, did not have CFS or Fibro issues to address first, like we do in this community.
Secondly, there is an additive that is used in some peptide manufactures called mannitol, as an additive which they say keeps the peptide in an appropriate matrix for it to reconstitute when the BAC water is added to it, but some people are saying the mannitol causes inflammatory response:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mannitol
I never had any issues with this, but there is a Canadian peptide seller called CANLABS, and last time I purchased form him, he had mannitol free, peptides of various sorts, because of this exact reason.
in the end, all you can really do is try and see if it works for you. Best of luck