Matt_C
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Hi,
First of all, sorry for the graphic content here but i'm having some issues with my bowel movements. It's a bit embarrassing but I need some advice please.
I've been feeling very poorly the last few days and i'm struggling to figure out what I need to do. Three days ago I increased my MB12 dose from 5mg to 9mg, then the next day I took 10mg. I seemed to have stabilised on 5mg dose and the extra produced some more startup, especially neurological startup with some strange visual stuff going on. I also ramped methylfolate up fairly quickly to 2200mcg over a few days from around 800-1200mcg.
On the first day of titrating up the MB12 and methylfolate I had some diarrhea with undigested food in it. I had five bowel movements, each getting softer and looser and closer to diarrhea. The second day I had much the same thing. Yesterday I only too 3mg MB12 and one B-right with 400mcg methylfolate and no more. I was feeling extremely tired and wiped out for most of the day. I had taken 1/2 an antihistamine the night before to help with sleep so I expected a little of this feeling, but this was extreme. My bowl movements improved though, with just one fairly normal motion in the morning. Then today, i'm feeling much the same. I took 4mg MB12 and took some more methylfolate, 1200mcg today. I had plenty of sleep but feeling extremely tired and wiped out and strange. Very "spacey" etc. And I had three bowel movements in the morning with the last one diarrhea. I had to come home from work, shouldn't have even gone in really. I took some extra potassium throughout the days to no apparent effect, but I don't think my symptoms indicate that I need potassium as i'm not having any muscle issues.
I can't figure out what's causing the diarrhea and this excessive spacey/sleepy problem. It's like the food I put in to my body almost passes straight through, with some digestion mind you. The Jarrow and Enzy B12's both contain xylitol and mannitol, sugar alcohols that are known to causes diarrhea in a lot of people, but i've looked around these forums and don't see too many people having an issue with it. Is it more likely from too much methylfolate? I'm still unsure whether I need methylfolate or not, can't figure out whether i'm over or under methylated or just methylating well. I obviously need B12 though but i'm not sure about the doses. I've also read that B12 can cause diarrhea as a common side effect. I'll be experimenting over the next week but dropping the Jarrow and Enzy and replacing with my bioceuticals brand Mb12 that has no sugar alcohols, and by ramping up methylfolate and see what happens. But if anyone has any ideas I would be very grateful to hear of them.
Thanks,
Matt
First of all, sorry for the graphic content here but i'm having some issues with my bowel movements. It's a bit embarrassing but I need some advice please.
I've been feeling very poorly the last few days and i'm struggling to figure out what I need to do. Three days ago I increased my MB12 dose from 5mg to 9mg, then the next day I took 10mg. I seemed to have stabilised on 5mg dose and the extra produced some more startup, especially neurological startup with some strange visual stuff going on. I also ramped methylfolate up fairly quickly to 2200mcg over a few days from around 800-1200mcg.
On the first day of titrating up the MB12 and methylfolate I had some diarrhea with undigested food in it. I had five bowel movements, each getting softer and looser and closer to diarrhea. The second day I had much the same thing. Yesterday I only too 3mg MB12 and one B-right with 400mcg methylfolate and no more. I was feeling extremely tired and wiped out for most of the day. I had taken 1/2 an antihistamine the night before to help with sleep so I expected a little of this feeling, but this was extreme. My bowl movements improved though, with just one fairly normal motion in the morning. Then today, i'm feeling much the same. I took 4mg MB12 and took some more methylfolate, 1200mcg today. I had plenty of sleep but feeling extremely tired and wiped out and strange. Very "spacey" etc. And I had three bowel movements in the morning with the last one diarrhea. I had to come home from work, shouldn't have even gone in really. I took some extra potassium throughout the days to no apparent effect, but I don't think my symptoms indicate that I need potassium as i'm not having any muscle issues.
I can't figure out what's causing the diarrhea and this excessive spacey/sleepy problem. It's like the food I put in to my body almost passes straight through, with some digestion mind you. The Jarrow and Enzy B12's both contain xylitol and mannitol, sugar alcohols that are known to causes diarrhea in a lot of people, but i've looked around these forums and don't see too many people having an issue with it. Is it more likely from too much methylfolate? I'm still unsure whether I need methylfolate or not, can't figure out whether i'm over or under methylated or just methylating well. I obviously need B12 though but i'm not sure about the doses. I've also read that B12 can cause diarrhea as a common side effect. I'll be experimenting over the next week but dropping the Jarrow and Enzy and replacing with my bioceuticals brand Mb12 that has no sugar alcohols, and by ramping up methylfolate and see what happens. But if anyone has any ideas I would be very grateful to hear of them.
Thanks,
Matt