I know someone who tried it with great success but am not sure if they would want me to disclose anything and would need their consent first.
Hello! I'm the friend!!
I don't doubt one bit that pathogens or toxins or something else causes ME but I suspect that the brain might very well "get stuck" in a pattern of over-arousal and that something like this program may be just the thing to get out of it
Yes, that's exactly what happens!! Doesn't even matter what caused it (so hard to believe but...the proof is in the pudding as they say!) ! We're taught that our limbic dysfunction (where autonomic responses take place) can become dysfunctional and can get stuck in a 'loop' (symptoms) due to any number of traumas.
I was wondering of Hopper's material focused mostly on chemical sensitivities? it sounds like its a bigger focus than CFS in the promotional.
Annie Hopper herself had severe MCS so her testimony is used in the promotionals. As for the DNRS training, because limbic dysfunction can affect so many body symptoms (hence the vast amount of co-morbid illnesses), people with all sorts of illness were present at the session I attended. In my particular group of 20, the following illness were represented: MCAS, MCS, CFS, Mold Sensitivities, Electro Magnetic Sensitivities, Anxiety, Lyme disease. (maybe others too, I don't remember)
Many people had the overlapping symptoms we're all so familiar with on Phoenix Rising. Every program obviously has a different representation of illness because of the uniqueness of the individual participants.
For example in my program (October 2015), I estimate that about 1/2 of the people had MCAS...of those, some had other issues as well yet a few had only that issue. The same scenario goes with with MCS, Lyme Disease etc
I had been doing reading on neural plasticity since November of 2014 so fortunately, I already was seeing positive changes in my health within a month of daily committing to my 'new routine'. I continued to learn about mediation and other things that were suggested through various books... Bruce Lipton, Norman Doidge, and others and in February '14 I was well enough to go on a 10 day holiday! Unfortunately, the condo on the island had a
huge mold problem and symptoms quickly came back. I knew then that I needed to learn more about how to make further and longer lasting health progress without relying on just positive thinking and meditation. Over the next few months, I regained the health I lost from the mold holiday and somehow I learned about DNRS. I was able to fly 4 hrs last month ( October) to Calgary to attend the 5 day program and have never looked back.
It is
hard work to train your brain to re-wire.!! It's such a different way type healing treatment than what I've done/tried for over 3 years!! I'm not always as diligent as I should be but I now have grace for myself and don't beat myself up when I fall behind on practice work. I'm the one that suffers for not following through so I'm learning that if I want to be as symptoms free as possible, I have to keep up with the suggestion practices (all are taught on the DVD's and in - person program).I am SO MUCH BETTER already. My biggest problems that are now gone are:
NO more PEM and no more POTS !!
Less of a problem was my MCAS but that also is gone. Much improved is the MCS and sleep dysfunction but I'm excited for that to exit my life as well
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Again, I'll say I was already seeing improvement before I went to the sessions so obviously, one must be able to physically attend. At one time my husband was mashing my food in a pureed form and hand feeding me as I was too weak to feed myself. Also, he would wheel me to the toilet as I couldn't walk nor get up off the couch/bed myself. That was my reality at one time....
I'm not going to even try to talk anybody into this program. It has worked for me and many of the other classmates I'm still in touch with and that's a fact. Honestly, I think it would be very difficult for some of the people on PR to attend the course even if physically able. I say that because we are told to leave our 'gained medical knowledge' at the door! Not that it's wrong to know what we've acquired over the years of illness, but because there's no need for it at the course! Instead, there is much trust involved ...in a big way... because we embark on a journey never traveled before.
Although many were taking medicine and some people even brought their own food, (absolutely no problem with that at all), Medicine or Medical theories etc were never once discussed by the staff and very much discouraged to be discussed amongst ourselves because it means you're still using the same familiar pathways that relate to illness and that's the very thing we're intending to Stop doing!
Many on PR have traveled the illness road for so long that to leave that behind would be very very difficult re: DNRS, but also very brave
In my experience of the program, some participants were seeing changes within 3 days, others started seeing changes within the week of being home. It's different for everyone but the key is not to give up on the 'homework'!
Much of this type of info can be read in more depth on the DNRS website. The testimonies are powerful and they're real. The science behind DNRS and neural plasticity is also real. It's just a different approach than many have tried.
Gupta suggests focusing strictly on his program with no health distractions for a period of 6 months.
Yes, DNRS is the same regarding the 6 months of consciously staying positive re: health issues.
Actually, I'm signing off of PR for awhile b/c we are told to be careful what we read, watch on TV, news etc. as we need to be intent of taking care of our
limbic system as it heals. It's been in overdrive for a long time!!
So since reading health issues can subconsciously automatically trigger our dysfunctional limbic system to respond negatively (by using our old practiced pathways), we are asked to refrain from those type of things. The whole idea is to create New Neural Pathways, healthy ones!
I hope I've been of help to anyone that might be considering DNRS.
Wishing Great Health and Happiness to each of you,
Charlie xo
