Anyone in the Pridgen/Duffy study? Positive results emerging

maryb · Mar 25, 2014

@Jon_Tradicionali
that's excellent news - I think

alex3619 · Mar 25, 2014

Jon_Tradicionali said:
So we will have to wait until trial results it seems. Nevertheless, two weeks isn't too long and indeed worth it if Pridgen delivers the cure he claims to have possibly found.

I don't think a cure has been claimed, even claimed to be possibly found. Promising results are what is claimed. We might know in a month.

Jon_Tradicionali · Mar 25, 2014

alex3619 said:
I don't think a cure has been claimed, even claimed to be possibly found. Promising results are what is claimed. We might know in a month.

Hi Alex,

The article touts the new treatment as a possible cure. So I've also referred to it as this. Nothing more, nothing less.

alex3619 · Mar 25, 2014

Jon_Tradicionali said:
Hi Alex,

The article touts the new treatment as a possible cure. So I've also referred to it as this. Nothing more, nothing less.

Tuscaloosa News

Tuscaloosa biotech company could be on verge of finding a cure,treatment for fibromyalgia

My intent is to make people aware that what the researchers are claiming and the media is reporting are different.

Bob · Mar 26, 2014

A new thread:

Dr. Pridgen's 9 different cocktail mix patents & research under Dr. Carol Duffy name
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...nts-research-under-dr-carol-duffy-name.29206/

Jon_Tradicionali · Apr 2, 2014

Video of Pridgen:

http://up.anv.bz/latest/anvload.html?key=eyJtIjoiTElOIiwicCI6ImRlZmF1bHQiLCJ2IjoiMjQ4MDE1In0=

Quoted from video:

“There’s two medicines that hit the viruses in three different ways that actually will put the viruses to sleep, and then sort of miraculously, after a while, their body just sort of goes back to the way it was supposed to be,” said Dr. Skip Pridgen, the CEO of Innovative Med Concepts.

SOC · Apr 2, 2014

Jon_Tradicionali said:
Video of Pridgen:

http://up.anv.bz/latest/anvload.html?key=eyJtIjoiTElOIiwicCI6ImRlZmF1bHQiLCJ2IjoiMjQ4MDE1In0=

Quoted from video:

“There’s two medicines that hit the viruses in three different ways that actually will put the viruses to sleep, and then sort of miraculously, after a while, their body just sort of goes back to the way it was supposed to be,” said Dr. Skip Pridgen, the CEO of Innovative Med Concepts.

That is a very unscientific way for a researcher to speak about his research.

Maybe he thinks he's talking to people with the intellectual ability of a 4th grader with his "put the viruses to sleep", "sort of miraculously", and "the way it was supposed to be". Hopefully there is more scientific information in the video. Sadly, my computer won't play the video, so I'm stuck with these rather odd bits of transcript.

That said, I'm hoping this is good, sound research that results in a useful treatment for many of us.

Ema · Apr 2, 2014

This ought to help...

Jon_Tradicionali · Apr 2, 2014

SOC said:
That is a very unscientific way for a researcher to speak about his research. Maybe he thinks he's talking to people with the intellectual ability of a 4th grader with his "put the viruses to sleep", "sort of miraculously", and "the way it was supposed to be". Hopefully there is more scientific information in the video. Sadly, my computer won't play the video, so I'm stuck with these rather odd bits of transcript.

That said, I'm hoping this is good, sound research that results in a useful treatment for many of us.

Although I do agree that his explanation into how his treatment works is very simplistic, you must remember who he is addressing.

People with sever, chronic cognitive dysfunction...

SOC · Apr 2, 2014

Ema said:
This ought to help...

Thanks, Ema. That helped....some. I got about 17 seconds into the video and then not only the video, but my entire computer froze.

My computer hates videos. Someday I'm going to get a new one.

Ema · Apr 2, 2014

SOC said:
Thanks, Ema. That helped....some. I got about 17 seconds into the video and then not only the video, but my entire computer froze. My computer hates videos. Someday I'm going to get a new one.

Well, it was just a tiny clip from the local news station.

But I daresay 4th grade audience might be aiming just a wee bit high...

liquid sky · Apr 2, 2014

Sounds very exciting to me! I think when he speaks of putting the viruses to sleep, he means putting them in a dormant state. Normally, people can hold HSV dormant, but there is something wrong with the immune system of a of of people or HSV is not what it used to be.

SOC · Apr 2, 2014

Jon_Tradicionali said:
Although I do agree that his explanation into how his treatment works is very simplistic, you must remember who he is addressing.

People with sever, chronic cognitive dysfunction...

Yes, but as anyone can see by reading PR, severe cognitive dysfunction doesn't stop us from understanding basic science. We may process slowly, but we're not children, and we're not stupid.

SOC · Apr 2, 2014

liquid sky said:
Sounds very exciting to me! I think when he speaks of putting the viruses to sleep, he means putting them in a dormant state. Normally, people can hold HSV dormant, but there is something wrong with the immune system of a of of people or HSV is not what it used to be.

He probably is referring to viral latency, but most of us understand about that and don't need to be told the virus is "going to sleep".

And scientists don't usually describe the results of their work as "miraculous".

I suppose he's using marketing language instead of scientific language. Advertising tends to aim at the lowest common denominator and be content-light. We need the science, not the advert. I guess we'll have to wait for the official scientific release for that.

Ema · Apr 2, 2014

Jon_Tradicionali said:
Although I do agree that his explanation into how his treatment works is very simplistic, you must remember who he is addressing.

People with sever, chronic cognitive dysfunction...

He's not addressing US in that video...he's addressing the local Tuscaloosa Alabama population in a 1:30 second news clip...a group of people who probably don't even know the difference between a virus and bacteria for the most part.

It's amazing that the local CBS affiliate even covered it, honestly, so let's cut them a break for being simplistic.

Bob · Apr 2, 2014

SOC said:
I suppose he's using marketing language instead of scientific language. Advertising tends to aim at the lowest common denominator and be content-light. We need the science, not the advert. I guess we'll have to wait for the official scientific release for that.

Yes, I assumed it was some sort of news item, aimed for people with zero knowledge about science.

Edit. I see that's exactly what it was. I crossed posts with Ema.

liquid sky · Apr 2, 2014

I agree he is using simple language. If it works, it really won't matter to me. The proof will be if and when his protocol works. It is pretty simple and the drugs are generic, so it will be available to most folks.

Jon_Tradicionali · Apr 2, 2014

SOC said:
Yes, but as anyone can see by reading PR, severe cognitive dysfunction doesn't stop us from understanding basic science. We may process slowly, but we're not children, and we're not stupid.

Completely agree. Was just suggesting reasons for why he used that type of language.

Anyway, we all know not to trust any statement without the relevant scientific backing.

So let's just wait another week before passing judgement.

Jon_Tradicionali · Apr 2, 2014

Ema said:
He's not addressing US in that video...he's addressing the local Tuscaloosa Alabama population in a 1:30 second news clip...a group of people who probably don't even know the difference between a virus and a bacteria for the most part.

It's amazing that the local CBS affiliate even covered it, honestly, so let's cut them a break for being simplistic.

Like I said in a previous post, it was just a possible justification for his language. But who else would be interested in watching this except those affected by this disease.

So I'm not exactly sure that it's not addressing us. The reporter also says they've had an overwhelming response from FM sufferers which reminds them why they are doing this in the first place. So they know fully well pwFM are watching.

Sushi · Apr 2, 2014

SOC said:
He probably is referring to viral latency, but most of us understand about that and don't need to be told the virus is "going to sleep". And scientists don't usually describe the results of their work as "miraculous".

I suppose he's using marketing language instead of scientific language. Advertising tends to aim at the lowest common denominator and be content-light. We need the science, not the advert. I guess we'll have to wait for the official scientific release for that.

I "know" Tuscaloosa--this is the Bible belt and this is "lite medical news" for the masses. Talk of "miracles"is part of the everyday coin of the realm in this area. That may be the local version of scientific language! (Sorry any Alabamians--I used to be one too!)

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