Antivirals Effective Against Coronavirus?

Rufous McKinney

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They must be having some supply chain issues with china or something

DCA seems to be produced in European labs- from what I could tell...at least thats the brand I just ordered.

Its really concerning that so much of our medical supply chain- is on foreign continents. This is not smart.

All the masks are in CHINA.
 

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The following snippet from the below linked article discusses the active suppression of information on IV Vit. C for treating the Coronavirus. -- I would be shocked if these experiements using IV Vit. C to treat the Coronavirus don't turn out to be successful. If Vit. C can successfully treat polio and the H1N1 virus, then why not the Coronavirus, which appears to be less virulent? I've read that approx. 80% of Coronavirus infections are considered "mild".

Three Intravenous Vitamin C Research Studies Approved for Treating COVID-19

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News of vitamin C research for COVID-19 is being actively suppressed
Anyone saying that vitamin therapy can stop coronavirus is already being labeled as "promoting false information" and promulgating "fake news." Even the sharing of verifiable news, and direct quotes from credentialed medical professionals, is being restricted or blocked on social media. You can see sequential examples of this phenomenon at my Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/themegavitaminman .​
Indeed, the World Health Organization (WHO) has, literally, met with Google and Facebook and other media giants to stop the spread of what they declare to be wrong information. amazon-met-with-who-to-talk-coronavirus-misinformation.html
Physician-directed, hospital-based administration of intravenous vitamin C has been marginalized or discredited. Scientific debate over COVID-19 appears to not be allowed.​
Ironically, Facebook, blocking any significant users' sharing of the news of approved vitamin therapy research, is itself blocked in China by the Chinese government. As for the internet, yes, China has it. And yes, it is censored. But, significantly, the Chinese government has not blocked this real news on how intravenous vitamin C will save lives in the COVID-19 epidemic. Here is the protocol as published in Chinese: https://orthomolecular.org/resources
Medical orthodoxy obsessively focuses on searching for a vaccine and/or drug for coronavirus COVID-19). While they are looking for what would be fabulously profitable approaches, we have with vitamin C an existing, plausible, clinically demonstrated method to treat what coronavirus patients die from: severe acute respiratory syndrome, or pneumonia.​
And it is available right now.​
To read all Orthomolecular Medicine News Service Reports on COVID coronavirus and intravenous vitamin C:​
Vol. 16, No. 04 January 26, 2020 Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus
Vol. 16, No. 06 January 30, 2020 Nutritional Treatment of Coronavirus
 
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It might be an idea to make up a 0.23% hand sanitizer with povidone-iodine. You can buy 10% povidone-iodine online (that possibly 10% may be a bit too strong though for regular use, because quite a bit of the iodine is systemically absorbed). Then you could apply this 0.23% povidone-iodine hand sanitizer before you go out shopping etc, and it would help protect the hands from contamination.
It says here in "Table 3: Tolerable Upper Intake Levels (ULs) for Iodine" that daily dose for iodine should not exceed 1,100 mcg. This solution may be too high for regular use.
 

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It says here in "Table 3: Tolerable Upper Intake Levels (ULs) for Iodine" that daily dose for iodine should not exceed 1,100 mcg. This solution may be too high for regular use.

High intakes of iodine are contraindicated in Hashimoto's thyroid disease, and are not recommended for people taking ACE inhibitors and ARB blood pressure drugs. And there may be other conditions where high iodine is not desirable.

But there are high-dose iodine supplements for sale, for example, this Swanson Iodine supplement containing 12500 mcg = 12.5 mg of iodine. And Iodoral make a 50 mg iodine supplement.

When I have supplemented with iodine, I find that around 15 mg daily helps reduce brain fog and fatigue slightly.
 

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Medical orthodoxy obsessively focuses on searching for a vaccine and/or drug for coronavirus COVID-19). While they are looking for what would be fabulously profitable approaches, we have with vitamin C an existing, plausible, clinically demonstrated method to treat what coronavirus patients die from: severe acute respiratory syndrome, or pneumonia.
I am not surprised. You see, vitamin C cannot be patented ! :devil:

The one thing which worries me on your Facebook page @Wayne is people are dropping in, scanning the 16,000mg information, and sadly as human nature often does -not noticing you reiterate that the treatment is by IV !!
Some people might be tempted to down 16,000mg of chewable C :headslap:

I know you are not responsible for their brains, Wayne, but sometimes people have to hear "don't do this by chewables!!" 100 times for it to sink in.
 

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I have already posted this, but a proven and cheap way to prepare your immune system is the combo of vit C, zinc and high allicin garlic extract (not black or kyolic).Allicin may have the strongest effect among them, it reduces duration of viral infection by 70%!You need minimum 1800mcg for the effect, I'd take 3000mcg+.
Garlic is brilliant stuff. It does help me a lot with any infection, and I find I crave it during crashes. I use the fresh cloves (the ones with the green "stripe" inside are apparently more medicinally effective) I eat a raw clove with each meal.
To stop the burning mouth effect, I find eating it with bread and lots of butter helps. Or bread, butter and honey. Or a meal.
 

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The one thing which worries me on your Facebook page @Wayne

Hi @Wolfcub -- Points certainly well taken. -- Just want to clarify however, that the Facebook page is not mine; it's by the author of the article I linked to. -- I just edited my thread to clarify that the segment below the linked article is a "snippet" from the article.
 
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Article is in Dutch, but it says that Chloroquine will be used here in the Netherlands to treat patients with Coronavirus. The medicine is produced by Ace Pharmaceuticals and they're also testing out Remdisivir, a relatively new antiviral drug. Chloroquine has been used in the passed to treat malaria as well as during the SARS outbreak in 2003/2004.
 

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@Wayne - Thank you for posting information about Facebook posts regarding Vitamin C because otherwise I would have missed what has happening on this topic. I rarely log into Facebook anymore because of my dislike of some of their corporate policies re data collection, advertisement, and censorship of user content.

For the ME/CFS community, I thought Dr. Cathcart’s connection to treating patients in the Lake Tahoe area with high doses of Vitamin C, in the 1970’s just ahead of the 1984 outbreak, might be worth taking another look at to see what his experiences might bring to the discussion around Vitamin C being trialed as an anti-viral treatment for COVID-19.. Here are two articles that Dr. Carthart wrote about Vitamin C - http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html. and https://vitamincfoundation.org/www.orthomed.com/auto.htm
(Note - Youtube videos with recordings of Dr. Cathcart’s lectures and interviews also contain little gems of information about his clinical observations when treating patients with Vitamin C.)

I also think watching the New Zealand 60 minutes Segment about a farmer who became gravely ill after contracting Swine Flu is worth reviewing. His family fought for intravenous Vitamin C treatment and he believes that this treatment changed the course of his illness and saved his life. I realize that many people have probably watched this video in years past, but it seemed like a good time to resurrect it because the Youtube police may discover it and deem it to be “misinformation” that needs to be censored. 🙈🙉🙊



@Wayne - Not sure if you have seen my posts about the W.H.O. talking to Facebook, Google, Youtube etc... to take down “misinformation” about the coronavirus? But when I learned back in January that they were testing intravenous Vitamin C as a possible treatment for some of the severe respiratory problems that can develop from the illness, I figured that censorship of any discussion about this type of “unproven” natural treatment might be on the hit list for “misinformation”. Here is the thread that I am referring to - https://forums.phoenixrising.me/thr...vid-19-and-misinformation.79199/#post-2260736

I also have spent some time looking at prior Vitamin C studies and it is very interesting to look at the dosing schedule in those studies. It seems to be a common theme that if the study did not produce a positive outcome that the dosing levels were much lower and/or for shorter time periods than what has been reported in individual case studies. This new clinical trial in China might be a game changer, if the higher intravenous dose of 24 grams is given and it is successful in treating the illness. Even though 24 grams per day of intravenous Vitamin C is a large dose, anecdotal evidence re positive treatment outcome of “severely” ill patients is often in the range of 50 to 200 grams per day. So, it will be important to understand the criteria used to select patients for this study.

Here is a study about Liposomal Vitamin C comparing this form of Vitamin C to others forms. There is a disclosed potential conflict of interest because the entity who sponsored the study is also the entity that developed the liposomal Vitamin C used in the study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4915787/#!po=40.3846
I imagine if intravenous Vitamin C trials in China are successful, other trials for liposomal Vitamin C and powdered or tablet forms of Vitamin C might result in looking at whether lower doses of these forms of Vitamin C could be effective before a patient’s symptoms become severe.

Here is a blog entry, from one of the companies that has a liposomal Vitamin C product, which discusses the hypothesis that aspirin may effect the efficacy of Vitamin C by competing for the same active transporters,. https://blog.livonlabs.com/wellness/nutrient-and-aspirin-interactions/.
 
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I found some on https://bio-japan.net/ but that's the only place I've found it so far. Not sure how legitimate the website is.

Not very. It diverts to yandex.ru for me.
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