always feel better at night, every day

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Yup! When I finally turn music on, start singing, enjoying more catchy stuff, fantasizing about things, suddenly start planning things for no reason in my life, I'll know I'm gonna be in for a real good few hours! But I do notice more tension when this happens and if my "happy explosion time" is disturbed then I can quickly get really irritable. After the patch of hours is over I'll feel it like start to physically simmer out in my brain and I'll try to latch onto the good feelings but then the music thing will slowly stop working, my thoughts will start getting more disorganized again, and then I'll be thinking "well that's that folks!" as I slowly slip back into a mini crash like state for a while.
Its weird. Mornings are worst: I get up, make breakfast, eat it and feel terrible; recover by laying down, then eventually its time to make lunch; eat lunch then recover again until about 3/4PM then start feeling kinda ok. I get stuff done, like the mail, emails, etc., between 3/4 and 6. 6-9 is dinner and family time. its a long day of what feels like mostly nothing. i'm getting sick of books on tape and TV.
 

Dysfunkion

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Its weird. Mornings are worst: I get up, make breakfast, eat it and feel terrible; recover by laying down, then eventually its time to make lunch; eat lunch then recover again until about 3/4PM then start feeling kinda ok. I get stuff done, like the mail, emails, etc., between 3/4 and 6. 6-9 is dinner and family time. its a long day of what feels like mostly nothing. i'm getting sick of books on tape and TV.

Tell me about it, I could get some stuff done on a normal day at 3/4 PM usually. Not too much but ordinary things like you described are doable. I always look forward to the 6-9 stretch for dinner and relaxing while feeling generally alright. I'm trying to read more but I've just been too mentally unavailable too lately and it's really frustrating me. I never eat lunch, I snack a little throughout the day but just a little too much food can easily energy crash me at the wrong time no matter what it is. When I eat in general can really make or break me.

I've been eating almost every day this week as I've been doing herbal treatments for lyme as whatever else is in there to kill and the osha root has been giving me an absolutely out of this world hunger and fatigue yet at the same time overall better with my senses and general mental clarity. At the same time I've had a bad cold on top of this so I could barely even taste or smell anything. Today is the first day off the osha root and I'm now on gumweed which my body seems to be alright with, it's also helping this viral infection a lot. More energy and a clearer head with it but still feeling pretty zombie like from the osha root whiplash and tail end of being sick here. I'm having food tonight but then I think I'll be well enough to have a 2 day light fast and reset myself because I just know all the food is also in a more typical way contributing to how dull and foggy I feel cognitively right now. I am completely in the dumps here, I need a time machine because I just know that no matter the next couple days are gonna be complete burnout.
 

kushami

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Someone with better reading comprehension for scientific papers than me suggested this explanation:

https://www.nature.com/articles/nri3386

Someone else has probably said it already in this thread, but lots of people with POTS feel better in the evening as well. And LC.

I have OCHOS and I used to always feel better at a certain time of day. Now it’s a bit muddled. I sometimes feel better around midnight, but only about once a month.
 

Dysfunkion

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Someone with better reading comprehension for scientific papers than me suggested this explanation:

https://www.nature.com/articles/nri3386

Someone else has probably said it already in this thread, but lots of people with POTS feel better in the evening as well. And LC.

I have OCHOS and I used to always feel better at a certain time of day. Now it’s a bit muddled. I sometimes feel better around midnight, but only about once a month.

I've dug into the circadian rhythm a lot myself it appears that the evening hours are when the immune system isn't in attack mode and blood pressure/body temperature somewhere in those evening hours also reaches a peak which explains a lot and why I now take anything immune stimulating at least past 5:30 PM because what I can tolerate then can make me feel not so good during morning hours. Working around this system has improved my quality of life so much.

Last night i slept well, in fact it was hard to keep myself up till my usual bed time around 11 PM because I was testing a routine with my lyme herbals after hesperidin brought back a familiar immune loop I got stuck in before that eventually lead to so many intolerances including to my methyl-b12. Though the single 500 mg dose of hesperidin brought something back online because though that happened my entire sensory system got much clearer and stayed that way, I also even though I haven't eaten very well in a good couple of days cause of running out of food I was only able to get this morning I was stronger physically in a familiar way. That immune loop I got stuck in appears to be what was behind a lot of my issues and I just found a solid repeatable that is able to break it. I think I have multiple infections and it was a major herx since as I kept hammering away at herbals since I didn't have too much to do in the mean time I over months began to gradually tolerate them better and better which also correlated with a better baseline health wise in general. Right now I'm going to put my focus on lyme/coinfections and antivirals because everything I am super responsive too that is effecting this circadian immune loop is in that ballpark. Everything else I supplement appears to backfire besides some basics that I need, if something does break the fatigue barrier I tend to get PEM with flu like symptoms and the only things that beat that back thus far have been in that lyme/coinfections herb bubble that I had to fight to become tolerable of in the first place. I've tried a lot lately though so I'm gonna slow down here after I try a couple more herbals, give my system a rest if I find something else to throw in the routine that works, and see how things play out over the next few months.
 
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