thanks Freddd. I just got my copper tests back and I fall mid range. Do you think that is ok?Low copper among other things can cause the nail problems. Low cell making makes for easily torn nails. Each of several things has specific symptoms and characteristics that show up on the nails.
Couldn't find any evidence that points towards symptoms developing in "hours". Here is a story about a couple that abused nitrous oxide recreationally. It took them eight years to develop serious symptoms from nitrous oxide caused B12 depletion.Nitrous oxide is one of the things that destroys B12 instantly by permanently oxidizing it. People have gone into dementia in hours.
Which is fine, I'm not here to break anyone's faith. Once you found something that works, you should of course keep using it. There is another recently active thread here where few people claimed thiamine (B1) cured them and they are firm believers in this protocol. I presented some skepticism in that thread as well about whether they really had B1 deficiency and people got defensive.The bottom line is absolutely nothing else had helped *at all*. And I'm very defensive of something that has been working -- because I also believe that losing faith can be deadly or at least disabling. So I can't allow anyone to break my faith without strong evidence that this can't or shouldn't work for whatever reason.
First I had a 10 minute response to B12, then a one hour response to methylfolate and so on for everything involved all the way out to copper. And that was a secondary problem caused by inadequate lithium making tcr-Li and unable to get copper higher than the rock bottom of the range which wasn't working for me;. The thing that is holding up the cell making is the ONLY one that will respond. The order can be different for each person as while some things are statistics of frequency one doesn't know the proper order until your body tells what it is. So pay attention. Each missing thing has it's own characteristics.Which is fine, I'm not here to break anyone's faith. Once you found something that works, you should of course keep using it. There is another recently active thread here where few people claimed thiamine (B1) cured them and they are firm believers in this protocol. I presented some skepticism in that thread as well about whether they really had B1 deficiency and people got defensive.
In the end whatever works and is safe to use is worth keeping in your supplement stack. Once a supplement works you don't really need faith so I try to detach any emotions from any supplement I trial, as it creates an emotional bias and placebo risk. If it works - great. If not, it's out of my stack and I move on to the next thing. Over the years, I've found help from certain bizarre supplements that nobody would think of -even kitchen spices - and then again, I found something like vitamin C increases my ME/CFS symptoms. I no longer try to make sense of it. The biochemistry of this disease is too complicated, so it is not practical for me to speculate exactly the mechanisms by which a treatment might help.
First I had a 10 minute response to B12, then a one hour response to methylfolate and so on for everything involved all the way ourt to copper. And that was a secondary problem caused by inadequate lithium making tcr-Li and unable to get copper higher than the rock bottom of the range which wasn't working for me
It depends on how the person uses the N2O. And some people have very little B12 and not in TCR-Li which protects the b12 from things like CO and N2O
I think you are misunderstanding that the level of B12 in the person, before the exposure, is what determines how much exposure can be tolerated. I'm attaching pages from the book (there are more; they have an entire chapter on surgery risks with B12).
That's okay. We watched a B12 documentary years ago. It's probably the same one I'm guessing. I remember being really surprised. I'll take a look again though. Thank you for the suggestion.Sorry, I cannot get the link to work. It is the one that is about 51 minutes long.
I put several hundred of potassium GLYCINE in a pint of water which I drink with vitamins and other minerals while eating. don't do potassium chloride, as it can go against the stomach tissue and concentrate making an acid and do damage. Time release pellets all separated however is fine, Be careful what you use.How did you do this exactly? Was that 350 every hour? Sounds like a really scary night.
I know the idea is to heal faster but my thought is that it seems better to avoid severe potassium deficiencies. I do eat a very high potassium diet as an almost vegan. I have added meat but very little -- the rest is whole food, plant based.
Right now for lunch I'm eating a "banana sandwich." Basically: banana, 1.5 slices ezekial bread, homemade peanut butter, a little honey, and 1.5 c plain soy milk (not fortified). That's almost / about 1500 mgs of potassium. My breakfast was probably high. And my dinner will be high.
At night, if my BP is getting low, I make a banana smoothie with soy milk, banana, and protein powder. That usually seems to help stabilize my BP. I just can't keep eating so close to bedtime bc that is something that can make reflux get worse again. And that doesn't help the constant bloating.
I did read a refeeding case study where they used a high potassium diet (only). But the guy was getting much lower doses of B12 by injection every day (100 mcg), and iron, for 14 days.
Glutathione causes massive "CATESTROPHIC" B12 DEFICIENCY in a day or two. It is dangerous. As I have decent B12 system now after 7 years of lithium making TCR-Li I have a very well working B12 system with a 24 hour half-life estimated. instead of the 20-50 minutes after an injection without a working lithium-B12 system. I can't tell the difference between MeCbl brands any more and haven't been able to for many year now. And some of the things may be specific to certain people by chance of what is the cause.
I like injections from a compound pharmacy. I don't know about the amount absorbed but I can clearly feel a very positive improvement from injecting 1 mg daily. I'm also trying several brands that include dibencozide from iherb and Amazon -- one day per week. I have only tried a quarter pill so far and that gave me a strong flushing type feeling (weird bc no niacin was involved). Maybe that's the wrong word. But the somewhat intense reaction only lasted for a few minutes. Otherwise, I didn't notice much of any effect. Obviously the dosing may be the issue there
NOW has a 10,000 mcg (10mg) sublingual. I have used that and it has been effective for me. The other brand is Nature’s Way B12 Infusion Methylcobalamin. I have only found that at iherb. It is 1,000 mcg or 1 mg sublingual.