Yet with the wave of his hand he dismissed montoyas work of 85% of cfsers with a retrovirus. Montoya is no idiot.
Lipkin used blood samples taken from Montoya's ME/CFS patients, but it was Lipkin who made the discovery of a possible retrovirus in these blood samples. So Lipkin's work is the only line of current research into a possible retroviral etiology of ME/CFS (apart from the Grossberg JHK retrovirus work, which is moving at snail's pace).
Given the XMRV fiasco, Lipkin is understandably being cautions about this finding, as I guess he does not want to create another emotional rollercoaster ride of raising false hopes among ME/CFS patients.
Im not sure why everyone stands up for lipkin, history of BSing in cfs.
What "history of bullshitting" are you referring to? I am not aware of this.
Mid 90s he said cfs was a real illness yet didnt do anything to help.didnt hear anything about him in cfs until the xmrv stuff.
As it turned out, Lipkin found the bornavirus was not linked to ME/CFS. But it could have been, and the fact he performed this research does not really line up with this notion he did nothing to help.
With what we now know about contamination issues when testing for XMRV, you'd think that these Iranian authors would have addressed this concern, and would have explained what steps they took to try to avoid this problem. But if you read the full paper, they don't mention the contamination issues, even though they talk about XMRV in the context of ME/CFS and prostate cancer.
so let's say that XMRV, was leaked by contamination on a polio vaccine
Xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus (XMRV) is "a laboratory-derived mouse virus that was generated through recombination between two endogenous murine retroviruses during propagation of a prostate cancer xenograft in the mid-1990's."