Marylib
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Trying to understand why the stuff makes me feel queasy - I can digest milk, so I don't get it. Not easy to find a protein powder that works for me. Any suggestions?
Whey 'protein' is a highly concentrated form of amino acids, which have been hydrolyzed and separated each from each, leaving a lot of free-standing aminos which, under some circumstances, can cause mischief.Trying to understand why the stuff makes me feel queasy
Thanks. Yes, I need to explore. Legumes and I never do well together. If I had more energy I could just more animal protein, which I digest well, but it involves cooking, which means standing up... I would rather be a vegan, but some things are not meant to be at this point.When I was using Protein powders I tried a few different things, a Pea/Soya Protein, Whey and Whey Isolate. For me the Pea and Soya set my bowels into a painful spin, as did Whey. However Whey Isolate didn't. I think vegetable proteins are often a cause of gut distress and I am going through that right now as I try to get my guts to accept Legumes. Whey is quite dense lactose but also some other things, the purest form is Whey Isolate and usually the least likely to cause GI distress, its worth trying isolate and a vegetable protein to see if you can tolerate those instead of the usual Whey protein.
I'd done the same thing early on in ME, relying on whey to boost my daily protein during the initial stages when I didnt have enough oomph to put an actual meal together .Could be the glutamic acid. And I may have overdone it with the whey protein years ago and am still sensitive to it.
Legumes and I never do well together. If I had more energy I could just more animal protein, which I digest well, but it involves cooking, which means standing up... I would rather be a vegan, but some things are not meant to be at this point.
That's interesting !!!Now I seem to handle well cooked beans. I'm fairly OK. I think there is something about making sure they are very well done.....(ie..canned beans sometimes seem to need to cook more)
I had problems with them, too. That was when I had no idea what I was reacting to in whey powder, and was desperately trying to find a substitute, not knowing that peas, even before hydrolizing, had one of the highest glutamic acid contents around.I cannot tolerate any of the protein powders with Pea or Legume.
What's BOKU? Am baffled .... not an unusual condition, but if you could take me out of it, would deeply appreciate ....Of course the most local food I can buy is BOKU. And I can't tolerate it.
The reason that it may be more tolerable is because an 'isolate', as opposed to 'whey protein', is processed and then filtered to be about 90% protein with most of the lactose and fats removed.Whey is quite dense lactose but also some other things, the purest form is Whey Isolate and usually the least likely to cause GI distress
The hype around casein is sort of a barrel of snakes. About its only obvious advantage sees to be that it's digested very slowly. Muscle builders prefer it for this reason.@YippeeKi YOW !! So would you prefer something like Casein over Whey? Bonus; Casein is supposed to contain benzo agonist peptides that cause anxiolysis and sedation
Any concentrated protein powder, whether whey or pea or soy, is produced by hydrolizing it either thru heat or acids or intense pressure, which severs the bonds between the amino acids, leaving a lot of 'free' everything, including glutamate, prbably the most troublesome.the manufacturing process denatures the proteins. A portion of glutamate becomes unbound free glutamate which will have the same effect as MSG (monosodium glutamate) etc.
What happens when you have pea protein?That's interesting !!!
My IBS-M has totally eliminated beans as a dietary staple, which is too bad, cause I love beans, always tolerated them well with no issues until .... this. And by 'this', I mean this mean-spirited little mauler of an illness. Just never gets tired of taking things away ....
I may try your suggestion, and just cook the crap out of them (poor choice of words .... apologies) then cook them some more in some sort of oil .... thank you for that hint !!!
I had problems with them, too. That was when I had no idea what I was reacting to in whey powder, and was desperately trying to find a substitute, not knowing that peas, even before hydrolizing, had one of the highest glutamic acid contents around.
I cant really recommend them, but that was just my reaction, Yours could be very different ....
What's BOKU? Am baffled .... not an unusual condition, but if you could take me out of it, would deeply appreciate ....
Haven't resorted to it in about 3 or 4 years. It devastatingly increased the stress on my CNS and unbearable severe panic/anxiety attacks. It was after 2nd dose of pea protein that I wound up in the ER for the second time, and I swear, that's the last time .... horrible experience, and they blew out my last good vein, then pretended, as the blood geysered ceiling-wards, that nothing's happening here, move along ....What happens when you have pea protein?
I wonder if that's what happening to me, or something similar but less intense...Haven't resorted to it in about 3 or 4 years. It devastatingly increased the stress on my CNS and unbearable severe panic/anxiety attacks. It was after 2nd dose of pea protein that I wound up in the ER for the second time, and I swear, that's the last time .... horrible experience, and they blew out my last good vein, then pretended, as the blood geysered ceiling-wards, that nothing's happening here, move along ....
Im not sure what your symptoms are, or what exactly you're dealing with, but if you find an increase in anxiety and you're taking pea protein, I would definitely give that a look as the possible culprit.I wonder if that's what happening to me, or something similar but less intense...
I can't really recommend for or against them. I've never used isolates, having given up on whey protein entirely once I isolated it as one of the core contributors to what I was dealing with, but I investigated them closely as an alternative before I gave up.@YippeeKi YOW !! looks like isolates are the main commercial whey protein products on Amazon is that what you recommend? Thanks.