overtheedge
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I'm interested in supplements to aid my gut as I have had strangely light stools since the latest chronic fatigue started 4 years ago and figure the cause of my CFS might well be in my gut. Anyone here have gut focused supplements worth sharing info about
Ones I’m considering using before long: Cat’s Claw, boswellia serrata, glutamine at doses of 20-30(doses of 5-10g’s per day didn’t do anything for me)
Ones that have shown good effects:
Betaine HCL(cured chronic constipation)
Digestive Enzymes(cured chronic constipation)
DGL(cured chronic constipation, not the same chronic constipation that the above two cured)
Xifaxan, I think this one worked and showed effects starting around the last few days of treatment, it was used for 16-17 days total, the effects may have been from a supplement called EB-N5 however which I started 20 days before the effects appeared, unlikely but I would find myself tasting the EB-N5 in my mouth at a point hours after consumption right as the effects would come on, EB-N5 contains: L-methylfolate calcium 3mg, P5P 35mg, methylcobalamin 2mg, Alpha Lipoic Acid 300mg, Cholecalciferol 2500 IU. Most of these I have taken before but some in different forms than are present here
Mastic Gum(made me feel real good the first month of use then stopped working)
Berberine (caused normalization of stool color and good feeling but also caused gut burning a few hours later and stopped working altogether after a few days)
Triphala(makes me feel real good at times, sporadic effects though)
SCD diet had me feeling good for the whole time I was on it but effects plateaued out, the good effects never left and were pretty strong but not strong enough to cure me or anything, also, although I was often feeling better on the diet I was low energy a lot and was in ketosis the two or three times I checked my blood for BHBA during the diet(first tested at around one month in then again at 5 and 6 months in, even with fruits I was in ketosis and getting way too few carbs and wasn’t doing a ketogenic focused style of diet or anything to compensate for the ketosis. From what I remember of the numbers I ran and the stuff I read during the time I was on the SCD it would have been difficult to eat SCD and not be eating low carb but I don’t know for sure, didn’t do enough blood ketone testing to tell. Stopped scd before reaching 7 months in as I was getting mental symptoms although they may have been from the way the diet was taking up my energy with its increased cooking load as well as ruining the enjoyment of food and not providing any lasting benefits besides feeling slightly better than usual, mental symptoms being depression, apathy, frustration.
Nutrient containing powders of all kinds(especially whey protein powder but also pea protein, rice protein, grass powder, powdered rations)(that part about whey protein powder working was written a while ago, whey protein powders of all kinds stopped working, im writing this at 10/10/17, other kinds of protein powders have been found to work though. Raw Organic Protein and Vega One Protein Powders have each made me feel real good, haven’t used either one continuously but I tested each one twice on separate occasions and got the same good results. I should mention I haven’t yet tried Whey Protein concentrate, the version of whey that contains all the good Glutathione precursors. Have only used whey protein isolates. When I have taken these powders they have made me feel good for 2-3 hours then the effects have waned, this was true too for the whey protein back when it did work, also, the effects are sporadic and sometimes don’t appear at all, even with the ones that still do work, although, the last time I tested any of these was around july 2017. I don’t know why these work, even powdered food rations, the kind that are in tablets that turn into powder upon chewing, have made me feel good in that same particular way. I think it may have to do with my gut issues and malabsorption and how easy these powders are to digest, the whey protein worked really powerfully the first few times I used it and got less and less powerful over time. Perhaps it was filling nutrient gaps that were caused by malabsorption and once the gaps were filled the stuff stopped working but I couldn’t say.
Hydrolyzed Collagen(which is high in Glycine and Proline which are good for joints and adrenals and glycine specifically for detox and sleep), gelatin didn’t have the same effects even though it is the same stuff just not as readily digestable, perhaps collagen worked because it provided easily digestable nutrients in the same way as all the stuff in the above paragraph does(protein powders, powdered rations, etc.), especially since glycine at 3g’s per day in capsules hasn’t worked in the past
Ones that have shown no effects:
Chlorella 500mg
Diflucan
Marshmallow root
Antibiotics of multiple kinds including antifungals (Bactrim OS, Diflucan, Nystatin,(maybe xifaxan, diflucan, still testing)
IgG
IgG 2000 CWP (2.5g’s)
Beets and beet juice
Probiotic enema two days in a row
Kefir(at least the version on whole food shelves which may not contain active cultures)
Pumpkin seeds
artichoke hearts
Artichoke capsules (1g/day)
apple cider vinegar
digestive bitters
aloe vera
Probiotics(even at large doses)
Slippery Elm
Ones I’m considering using before long: Cat’s Claw, boswellia serrata, glutamine at doses of 20-30(doses of 5-10g’s per day didn’t do anything for me)
Ones that have shown good effects:
Betaine HCL(cured chronic constipation)
Digestive Enzymes(cured chronic constipation)
DGL(cured chronic constipation, not the same chronic constipation that the above two cured)
Xifaxan, I think this one worked and showed effects starting around the last few days of treatment, it was used for 16-17 days total, the effects may have been from a supplement called EB-N5 however which I started 20 days before the effects appeared, unlikely but I would find myself tasting the EB-N5 in my mouth at a point hours after consumption right as the effects would come on, EB-N5 contains: L-methylfolate calcium 3mg, P5P 35mg, methylcobalamin 2mg, Alpha Lipoic Acid 300mg, Cholecalciferol 2500 IU. Most of these I have taken before but some in different forms than are present here
Mastic Gum(made me feel real good the first month of use then stopped working)
Berberine (caused normalization of stool color and good feeling but also caused gut burning a few hours later and stopped working altogether after a few days)
Triphala(makes me feel real good at times, sporadic effects though)
SCD diet had me feeling good for the whole time I was on it but effects plateaued out, the good effects never left and were pretty strong but not strong enough to cure me or anything, also, although I was often feeling better on the diet I was low energy a lot and was in ketosis the two or three times I checked my blood for BHBA during the diet(first tested at around one month in then again at 5 and 6 months in, even with fruits I was in ketosis and getting way too few carbs and wasn’t doing a ketogenic focused style of diet or anything to compensate for the ketosis. From what I remember of the numbers I ran and the stuff I read during the time I was on the SCD it would have been difficult to eat SCD and not be eating low carb but I don’t know for sure, didn’t do enough blood ketone testing to tell. Stopped scd before reaching 7 months in as I was getting mental symptoms although they may have been from the way the diet was taking up my energy with its increased cooking load as well as ruining the enjoyment of food and not providing any lasting benefits besides feeling slightly better than usual, mental symptoms being depression, apathy, frustration.
Nutrient containing powders of all kinds(especially whey protein powder but also pea protein, rice protein, grass powder, powdered rations)(that part about whey protein powder working was written a while ago, whey protein powders of all kinds stopped working, im writing this at 10/10/17, other kinds of protein powders have been found to work though. Raw Organic Protein and Vega One Protein Powders have each made me feel real good, haven’t used either one continuously but I tested each one twice on separate occasions and got the same good results. I should mention I haven’t yet tried Whey Protein concentrate, the version of whey that contains all the good Glutathione precursors. Have only used whey protein isolates. When I have taken these powders they have made me feel good for 2-3 hours then the effects have waned, this was true too for the whey protein back when it did work, also, the effects are sporadic and sometimes don’t appear at all, even with the ones that still do work, although, the last time I tested any of these was around july 2017. I don’t know why these work, even powdered food rations, the kind that are in tablets that turn into powder upon chewing, have made me feel good in that same particular way. I think it may have to do with my gut issues and malabsorption and how easy these powders are to digest, the whey protein worked really powerfully the first few times I used it and got less and less powerful over time. Perhaps it was filling nutrient gaps that were caused by malabsorption and once the gaps were filled the stuff stopped working but I couldn’t say.
Hydrolyzed Collagen(which is high in Glycine and Proline which are good for joints and adrenals and glycine specifically for detox and sleep), gelatin didn’t have the same effects even though it is the same stuff just not as readily digestable, perhaps collagen worked because it provided easily digestable nutrients in the same way as all the stuff in the above paragraph does(protein powders, powdered rations, etc.), especially since glycine at 3g’s per day in capsules hasn’t worked in the past
Ones that have shown no effects:
Chlorella 500mg
Diflucan
Marshmallow root
Antibiotics of multiple kinds including antifungals (Bactrim OS, Diflucan, Nystatin,(maybe xifaxan, diflucan, still testing)
IgG
IgG 2000 CWP (2.5g’s)
Beets and beet juice
Probiotic enema two days in a row
Kefir(at least the version on whole food shelves which may not contain active cultures)
Pumpkin seeds
artichoke hearts
Artichoke capsules (1g/day)
apple cider vinegar
digestive bitters
aloe vera
Probiotics(even at large doses)
Slippery Elm
