Uric acid

[Gondwanaland]

Hi Penny

Have you tried lithium orotate? Lithium is suppose to help dissolve uric acid crystals.

Could you please link to more info on that?

 

[Rand56]

Could you please link to more info on that?

"Non-medication treatments for hyperuricemia include a low purine diet (see Gout) and a variety of dietary supplements. Treatment with lithium salts has been used as lithium improves uric acid solubility."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperuricemia

 

[PennyIA]

Hi Penny

Have you tried lithium orotate? Lithium is suppose to help dissolve uric acid crystals.

Thanks for posting this. I'll try adding it. I found a couple of references about keeping it low dose, adding vitamin C all as a preventative ... as well and including Cherry Juice for immediate relief. I've heard of the Cherry Juice before, but also got direction it was better if it was tart cherry and that capsules or supplements work better than keeping it on hand and fresh... so I'll experiment and see how it goes. Thankfully my last flare was after eating shelfish in Jan and nothing since, so we'll see how it goes.

I also read a lot about the lithium being helpful with mood issues and alcoholism as let's face it a lot of alcoholics are self-medicating. I'm interested in seeing if it helps my son with their mood issues.

 

[Rand56]

I will start with 10-20mg of niacin (high doses can disrupt thyroid hormones)

Do you know if this also applies to Niacinamide? Forgive my ignorance if this has been mentioned and answered before.

 

[Gondwanaland]

Do you know if this also applies to Niacinamide? Forgive my ignorance if this has been mentioned and answered before.

Must be careful with amounts of sulfur in the B vits because sulfur hinders iodine absorption/metabolization. In this case I think Niacin = Niacinamide. But this is only a problem for those who have thyroid problems, and I don't think this is your case, therefore it should not be a concern for you

 

[Rand56]

But this is only a problem for those who have thyroid problems, and I don't think this is your case, therefore it should not be a concern for you

Well, I like your confidence saying this, but I'd like to be more confident myself about this LOL

 

[jason30]

Must be careful with amounts of sulfur in the B vits because sulfur hinders iodine absorption/metabolization. In this case I think Niacin = Niacinamide. But this is only a problem for those who have thyroid problems, and I don't think this is your case, therefore it should not be a concern for you

Sorry, a bit off-topic: i have read that niacinamide/niacin is not adviced when there are thyriod problems, but i couldn't find why. Do you have an idea?

 

[Gondwanaland]

Sorry, a bit off-topic: i have read that niacinamide/niacin is not adviced when there are thyriod problems, but i couldn't find why. Do you have an idea?

Nicotinic acid decreases serum thyroid hormone levels while maintaining a euthyroid state.

Nicotinic acid-induced toxicity associated with cytopenia and decreased levels of thyroxine-binding globulin.

Also yesterday I found a link between uric acid and thyroid disorders, and since niacinamide increases uric acid, there could be something hidden in this metabolic pathway as well.

 

[brenda]

Dam it helps my sleep

 

[Gondwanaland]

Dam it helps my sleep

If it is helping there is no need to stop it. Do you take more than 100mg?

Edit: I might try it (niacin) before bed as well (about 20mg)

 

[brenda]

Niacinamide 5oo mg 2 x a day

 

[Gondwanaland]

Must be careful with amounts of sulfur in the B vits because sulfur hinders iodine absorption/metabolization. In this case I think Niacin = Niacinamide. But this is only a problem for those who have thyroid problems, and I don't think this is your case, therefore it should not be a concern for you

I must apologize here because I thought there was sulfur in B3, but there isn't.

 

[Gondwanaland]

Niacinamide 5oo mg 2 x a day

And isn't the magnesium oxide you are taking balancing the things with uric acid for you?

 

[jason30]

Nicotinic acid decreases serum thyroid hormone levels while maintaining a euthyroid state.

Nicotinic acid-induced toxicity associated with cytopenia and decreased levels of thyroxine-binding globulin.

Also yesterday I found a link between uric acid and thyroid disorders, and since niacinamide increases uric acid, there could be something hidden in this metabolic pathway as well.

Thanks Gondwanaland, very informative! Good to know when you have thyriod problems.
Didn't knew that it could also increase uric acid.

 

[brenda]

And isn't the magnesium oxide you are taking balancing the things with uric acid for you?

No idea.

 

[Gondwanaland]

No idea.

Are you having symptoms from high uric acid or not? Is magnesium oxide still helping?

 

[brenda]

Are you having symptoms from high uric acid or not? Is magnesium oxide still helping?

As far as l know it is, not sure and don't know what uric acid symptoms are.

 

[MikeSimouns]

It is safe to used that even not prescribe by doctor because the uric acid in my big toe is getting worse.

 

[Gondwanaland]

It is safe to used that even not prescribe by doctor because the uric acid in my big toe is getting worse.

Magnesium is a safe supplement, but not everyone tolerate it.

 

[PennyIA]

It is safe to used that even not prescribe by doctor because the uric acid in my big toe is getting worse.

I'm one who can't tolerate magnesium - I can tell you that Epsom salt soaks helps with my chronic pain (no idea if it's related to uric acid or ME/CFS; but it does help with that).

I've been managing my high uric acid pain by diet modification... but have ordered some "Tart Cherry" supplements as I've been given information from multiple gout sufferers who say it's a really quick help for reducing pain.

I can't recommend it myself as I haven't had a flare up since I ordered it... but will keep you posted if I try it myself.