Trudie Chalder to speak at Norwegian Research Seminar

[Invisible Woman]

I would love to see her booed off the stage - preferably by physicians and fellow psychologists and not just patients. If it's just us then we're back to the "aggressive patients" smear campaign.

However, in the meantime perhaps it is best to let her speak and take whatever opportunity we can to show the counter arguments. It's taking time (far too long) but sooner or later their work will be seen for the pile of BPS it really is. Then all their canvassing will work against them.

 

[Grigor]

Please record it so we can show it to David Tuller as well.
It's clear the authors are still profiting from the fact that the whole David Tuller Trial and error has not reached the mainstream press besides WSJ. So she can keep at it with her BS. Even in Norway. Hopefully it will change soon.
And yes booh her off the stage please.

 

[Large Donner]

The child catcher in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang had a lot of experience with young kids, but he's not someone you'd have invited to talk at a Save the Children Fund charity dinner.

Have you heard of Jimmy Saville?

 

[PhoenixDown]

Her work leads to news articles like this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/sci...chronic-fatigue-syndrome-say-researchers.html

Fear of exercise exacerbates ME and sufferers need to try and get up out of bed if they want to get better, a major study by King's College has found.

How can they be so blind to see the harm they are doing to those of who get worse with exercise.

 

[Valentijn]

Maybe we should have a strategy to protest at any conference where psychologists are presenting on ME/CFS.

Psychobabblers, not psychologists. There are some perfectly sane and intelligent psychologists and psychiatrists involved in ME research after all. And some non-psych MDs who are just as happy to engage in psychobabble.

 

[Marky90]

Iv`e sent the arranger an e-mail now, asking how they would prefer leaflets being handed around. Curious as to what response I will get.

 

[Marky90]

She responded that since the conference was not about the PACE-trial, it would do to place the leaflets on a table outside of the conference hall.

I don`t agree

I pointed out that the PACE-trial wrongfully is Chalders foudation for selling CBT and GET for ME-patients, and it is therefore of great importance that the attendees are made aware that the studies being referred to, actually doesn`t show any effect at all. This is especiaslly true when she gets 90 minutes to propose these regimes for the very sick, which has not even been included in their poor "studies".

 

[deleder2k]

If they don't allow you to put it on the chairs, then someone should be standing and handing them out to everyone that goes in to the conference hall.

 

[Marky90]

If they don't allow you to put it on the chairs, then someone should be standing and handing them out to everyone that goes in to the conference hall.

Yes, that will have to suffice in case of a negative answer.

 

[sarah darwins]

She responded that since the conference was not about the PACE-trial, it would do to place the leaflets on a table outside of the conference hall.

Any way you could have David Tuller's recent video running on a tape loop on a flat screen in the lobby?!

 

[BurnA]

I pointed out that the PACE-trial wrongfully is Chalders foudation for selling CBT and GET for ME-patients, and it is therefore of great importance that the attendees are made aware that the studies being referred to, actually doesn`t show any effect at all.

Exactly, it doesn't matter if the conference is about the PACE trial or not, (in fact why would there be a conference about the PACE trial itself ?) if its about CBT / GET then the PACE trial ( and all its flaws) is relevant. Also the follow up study which showed "little difference" between treatments.

Thanks for all the effort!

 

[Marky90]

Any way you could have David Tuller's recent video running on a tape loop on a flat screen in the lobby?!

That sounds implausible..

 

[Marky90]

So I was denied handing out the leaflets on the chairs, she`ll probably deny me handing them out at the entrance to. I wish her good luck with that, if they call security i`ll have someone videotape it.

 

[A.B.]

So I was denied handing out the leaflets on the chairs, she`ll probably deny me handing them out at the entrance to. I wish her good luck with that, if they call security i`ll have someone videotape it.

Sounds like this seminar about CBT and GET is just the usual self-serving bullshit about affirming the relevance of psychiatry.

 

[BurnA]

So I was denied handing out the leaflets on the chairs, she`ll probably deny me handing them out at the entrance to. I wish her good luck with that, if they call security i`ll have someone videotape it.

Are these people familiar with Tullers work ? Are they clueless about PACE or do they actually believe it ?

 

[Marky90]

Are these people familiar with Tullers work ? Are they clueless about PACE or do they actually believe it ?

Don`t know, if they are aware but invite her anyway then i`m a bit lost for words.

 

[Freddy]

Trudie Chalder is on record saying that the idea that patients have some sort of underlying disease is silly

Hi @A.B. , interesting!
Do you have a source for that? Would like to digest that one in original form to reinforce some anger...

 

[A.B.]

Hi @A.B. , interesting!
Do you have a source for that? Would like to digest that one in original form to reinforce some anger...

In a series of training videos for GPs, she comments on the idea of patients having an underlying disease being silly. You can find the videos on youtube. She says it somewhere in the second half if I remember right.

 

[Invisible Woman]

So I was denied handing out the leaflets on the chairs, she`ll probably deny me handing them out at the entrance to. I wish her good luck with that, if they call security i`ll have someone videotape it.

How disappointing! Do they have a facebook page? What do the members think?

I was rather hoping that, as they were doing the intro talk, they might do a synopsis of where we are now and perhaps would include/add a page or two re PACE and possibly a reference list of recent research development in the seminar handout.

 

[jimells]

So I was denied handing out the leaflets on the chairs, she`ll probably deny me handing them out at the entrance to. I wish her good luck with that, if they call security i`ll have someone videotape it.

This conference might be a good location for a @taniaaust1 style lie-in.

After an hour sitting on the cool ground, attracting researchers attention of ME/CFS with my signs.. I was needing to lay down and curled up on the towel I've taken with me for that purpose. I promptly feel asleep there. I must be the most peaceful protester in earths history.. a sleeping protest!!