Star-Anise
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Hi all, since I was still having low energy with methyl-B12, and methylfolate (although marked improvements overall), I decided to try introduce adenosyl-B12, and carnitine fumarate.
Well the major energy improvements are awesome, I seem to be in hyper-detox mode. I feel bloated, and I have gained about 2-3 pounds, & the weight is rising daily. This seems to be the case with or without the carnitine.
My doses are small:
adenosyl B12 - 1.075 mg daily
carnitine fumarate - approx 50 mg.
+ I have had to cut back my methyl B12 to 500mcg daily
and my methylfolate - I'm thinking of cutting it back a bit more too. I'm currently at 125 mcg
I have found some limited info on internet that seems to make sense for my situation, but I would welcome any feedback that anyone can give:
From: http://www.wellnessresources.com/weight_tips/articles/detoxification_during_weight_loss/
This description seems to be applicable to my situation. I looked up this guy's Leptin Diet, & it basically seems to be low-carb. I can do this, I guess, if I need to. My diet is already so very restricted due to my intolerance to sulfur, so I'll give it a try.
I have been taking huge amounts of bioflavonoids, and Calcium D Glucarate to support my detox for some time, but now this seems to just exacerbate the water retention, bloatedness, and weight gain even at tiny doses.
I know Yasko equates use of adenosyl B12 with lead/and aluminum excretion.... anyone have experience with this in particular?
I'm reluctant to stop the adenosyl just because my energy = awesome. Stable, and clear headedness in a way that I have not experienced in almost a decade.
Is it just a phase? Should I just let it do it's thing? Drink lots of water... and be patient? I thought that maybe I could try to sweat it out, and thought that I could go to a sauna or a hot yoga class....
Someone just suggested use of chanca piedra to support detox. I can look into this as well. I have used this before when I was far more sick with mixed results. I am worried that any extra detox agents are going to continue to push me even further into this hyper detox mode. What I know for sure is that I cannot handle a bunch of sulfur based substances that are traditionally used to cleanse the liver like Milk thistle, and such... These increase my fatigue greatly...
I have been considering getting some tests done re: phase1/phase2 detox. I know I have several cyp snps, but I do not have these in my signature. I can add if this will help...
I am quite caffeine sensitive (I get edgy easily). Someone suggested that this means that I have slow phase 1. I think I have slow phase "everything," lol.
THANKS EVERYONE
Well the major energy improvements are awesome, I seem to be in hyper-detox mode. I feel bloated, and I have gained about 2-3 pounds, & the weight is rising daily. This seems to be the case with or without the carnitine.
My doses are small:
adenosyl B12 - 1.075 mg daily
carnitine fumarate - approx 50 mg.
+ I have had to cut back my methyl B12 to 500mcg daily
and my methylfolate - I'm thinking of cutting it back a bit more too. I'm currently at 125 mcg
I have found some limited info on internet that seems to make sense for my situation, but I would welcome any feedback that anyone can give:
Toxin excess is a common reason for rapid weight gain, both as a defense mechanism, and because the toxins are crashing metabolism. Individuals can gain 25 – 50 pounds in a year when acute toxin challenges go unmanaged.
Thus, toxins are stuffed into your fat in the first place to get them away from your metabolism. When they are in your circulation they can readily disrupt your metabolism, causing weight gain. Yet, as you lose weight they go back into your circulation. You must effectively clear them or you will feel crummy, fatigued, irritable, and/or simply not lose any weight.
Sometimes you will have no trouble losing weight for a while, and then hit a toxic layer of fat. Although you don’t change your diet or exercise (you possibly experience a bit more stress), you now find yourself in a toxic slow down. Your weight loss will stop or you will start gaining weight as your body now holds water in an effort to dilute the poisons. If you get frustrated you’ll start eating more, which will actually make you feel much better, since the toxins will be packaged back up into fat and sent back to storage. Of course, you won’t feel much better next time you look at the scale.
Some individuals have a baseline of being too toxic with clogged plumbing as they try to embark upon weight loss efforts. Weight loss under such circumstances is difficult and such individuals need to start out not only by improving diet quality, following the Leptin Diet, and doing moderate exercise, but also by focusing on their personal detoxification needs.
From: http://www.wellnessresources.com/weight_tips/articles/detoxification_during_weight_loss/
This description seems to be applicable to my situation. I looked up this guy's Leptin Diet, & it basically seems to be low-carb. I can do this, I guess, if I need to. My diet is already so very restricted due to my intolerance to sulfur, so I'll give it a try.
I have been taking huge amounts of bioflavonoids, and Calcium D Glucarate to support my detox for some time, but now this seems to just exacerbate the water retention, bloatedness, and weight gain even at tiny doses.
I know Yasko equates use of adenosyl B12 with lead/and aluminum excretion.... anyone have experience with this in particular?
I'm reluctant to stop the adenosyl just because my energy = awesome. Stable, and clear headedness in a way that I have not experienced in almost a decade.
Is it just a phase? Should I just let it do it's thing? Drink lots of water... and be patient? I thought that maybe I could try to sweat it out, and thought that I could go to a sauna or a hot yoga class....
Someone just suggested use of chanca piedra to support detox. I can look into this as well. I have used this before when I was far more sick with mixed results. I am worried that any extra detox agents are going to continue to push me even further into this hyper detox mode. What I know for sure is that I cannot handle a bunch of sulfur based substances that are traditionally used to cleanse the liver like Milk thistle, and such... These increase my fatigue greatly...
I have been considering getting some tests done re: phase1/phase2 detox. I know I have several cyp snps, but I do not have these in my signature. I can add if this will help...
I am quite caffeine sensitive (I get edgy easily). Someone suggested that this means that I have slow phase 1. I think I have slow phase "everything," lol.
THANKS EVERYONE