Staph vaccine to treat CFS??

[serafim]

That's interesting, do you have a source for that? Would be interested to read more.

the treatment was originally discovered by William Coley. since then it’s been refined and i believe a treatment based on Coley’s is still in use today. i’ve learned about it from a book called Inflamed: the Anatomy of Injustice by Rupa Marya and another author whose name i forgot. i recommend it, it’s an interesting read.

 

[Charles555nc]

That's interesting. Have you seen this vaccine for sale at any international Russian pharmacy site?

Is the staph vaccine out now? Anybody know? Also, any other new relevation, vaccine related or not, for us? o wise Hip

 

[Charles555nc]

should be around late february-march according to the manufacturer

any news from the vaccine manufacturer?

 

[Hip]

Is the staph vaccine out now?

I have not been following he story, so I do not know. My capacity to follow discussions is much more limited since getting long COVID.

 

[serafim]

any news from the vaccine manufacturer?

they said late february-march. the adsorbed vaccine is still unavailable

 

[mitoMAN]

they said late february-march. the adsorbed vaccine is still unavailable

Any update? Where did you inquire? So I can ask my Russian friend

 

[serafim]

Any update? Where did you inquire? So I can ask my Russian friend

they said it will be out in the end of the first quarter. the first quarter isn’t over yet and the vaccine isn’t out on the russian market yet. i will post here when it is. no need to barrage the manufacturer with questions. i contacted them via email. it’s on their website. medgamal.ru or something like that

 

[Hip]

On the manufacturer's website, this is the link to the stronger adsorbed version of the vaccine:
https://medgamal.ru/products/anatoxin-stafilokokkoviy-ochischenniy-adsopbipovanniy/

And this is the link to the weaker non-adsorbed version:
https://medgamal.ru/products/anatoxin-stafilokokkoviy-ochischenniy/


The adsorbed version is more likely to work for ME/CFS, as it has a stronger immune stimulating effect, due to having an aluminium adjuvant.

It does not look like the adsorbed version is available though, as there is no indication on the webpage regarding where this vaccine can be bought. Whereas for the non-adsorbed version, the webpage shows where it can be bought.

 

[Thebirdman333]

No updates yet?

 

[serafim]

No updates yet?

the production is taking longer than originally planned. the adsorbed vaccine is expected to come out in september 2024.

 

[serafim]

why aren’t the findings of Gottfries taken seriously in the field of me/cfs research? i don’t see any interest in them at all, not from the researchers or the general public. wonder if we could get some russian researchers interested in a clinical trial of the staph vaccine for CFS and Fibro. the only problem is there currently aren’t any

 

[mitoMAN]

the production is taking longer than originally planned. the adsorbed vaccine is expected to come out in september 2024.

do you know what the difference is between the non-absorbed and the absorbed (for what reason are they producing two different versions of the vaccine originally?)
If the non-adosrbed is weaker but still useful and already available, maybe its worth already purchasing this one and starting with weekly injections (or every 10 days) until the other one becomes available?
If the price is not extremly high obviously.

I am personally interested as I am a super responder to BCG Vaccines, but they leave huge scars on my body, so my reaction to another bacteria vaccine would be very interesting especially if it does not leave your body with flesh wounds and scars.

 

[Hip]

do you know what the difference is between the non-absorbed and the absorbed (for what reason are they producing two different versions of the vaccine originally?)

In the Russian vaccine instructions, it says the weaker non-absorbed version is used for people who have a current acute Staphylococcus infection. Whereas the strong adsorbed version (which contains an immune stimulating adjuvant) is intended for prophylactic use: to help prevent Staphylococcus infection in those at risk for it.

The adsorbed version I think would be too strong for people with an acute Staphylococcus infection, as the vaccine might trigger an immune response which is too fierce.

If the non-adosrbed is weaker but still useful and already available, maybe its worth already purchasing this one and starting with weekly injections (or every 10 days) until the other one becomes available?
If the price is not extremly high obviously.

I observed that when it was working for me, the benefits of the adsorbed Russian vaccine only lasted for about 7 to 10 days. So I found I had to re-inject every 10 days to maintain the benefits. This contrasts to the original Staphypan vaccine, which only needs to be re-injected every 21 to 28 days. So Staphypan appears to be stronger.

So if the Russian absorbed vaccine requires re-injection every 10 days, you'd probably have to re-inject the non-absorbed say every 2 or 3 days, to give it any chance of working.

 

[forestglip]

This was a comment on Health Rising's blog about Dr. Gottfries. Does anyone know this R Bruce Duncan doctor, and what vaccines he used?

Another obscure doctor who used vaccines to treat CFS and FM and many similar hard-to-categorise conditions, with considerable success, was Dr R. Bruce Duncan, (Wellington NZ), who has been dead for more than a decade now (and he was at least well into his 80’s when he died).

In his clinic, he “poked vaccines” of all kinds at various strengths, into his patients (with their consent), trying to find the one that worked. He was famous for achieving “miracle cures” when the right vaccine at the right strength was injected.

He accumulated considerable knowledge and insight of what was likely to work for each patient and condition, making the process often quite short.I