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I actually took a modified test for an NIH study but it wasn't adequately reviewed with me. Anyone know how to assess the numbers? What is the actual AT number? I see AT Vslope and AT %V02m to top and a bunch of different markers on the side like Heart Rate. I think my test is really suspicious; my HR spiked to over 200 when they put the mask on me - I have very dysregulated breathing. I have a relatively low V02 max but my AT might be high.
I think because our aerobic system is up the creek without a paddle, we rely on our anaerobic energy system, this system is only used for short bursts of energy etc so if we are using this system more then we should, we will become fatigue easier.
Great thanks! 156. The readings I thought were really odd were breathing freq, ventilation, and breathing reserve. I don't know if they are actually meaningful but they seemed to be off quite a bit.Do you have a graph that has VO2 and VCO2 lines? It might be titled VO2/VCO2. If you have that information you can find your AT by reading your heart rate at the point the two lines cross.
I lost all my core strength and tone in the years I've had ME/CFS, so I'm trying deal with that first. So I'm not working with weights yet, just a very few core body exercises in a supine position, 60 secs at a time. **sigh** Baby steps.
Even though my activity level is quite a bit higher now than it was last year - can clean the house - go out a few times a week, i find i still cant add in ANY exercise of any sort at all. I have tried adding in light yoga stretching (literally a couple once a day), i have tried a short walk every day, i have tried 2 minutes gentle peddling on my exercise bike. After a few days i always start to get sicker again. Its so frustrating because i feel like i need to get fitter and stretch my muscles a bit more - i used to swim and walk and cycle and garden - even with mild M.E. (although increasing my fitness over a certain threshold was impossible no matter how much exercise i did)
For me i believe that as my energy has improved i do more in the house and a little bit in the garden and this increases my activity to the point where i cant add in any exercise as well. For me i have come to the conclusion that just being more active in day to day life has to be as good as exercise, although i get depressed sometimes at all the weight i have gained and strength i have lost. If things are going well i can garden a couple of sessions in the week - but i cant even keep this up week in week out.
Its all so bloody frustrating!
Justy.
Even though my activity level is quite a bit higher now than it was last year - can clean the house - go out a few times a week, i find i still cant add in ANY exercise of any sort at all. I have tried adding in light yoga stretching (literally a couple once a day), i have tried a short walk every day, i have tried 2 minutes gentle peddling on my exercise bike. After a few days i always start to get sicker again. Its so frustrating because i feel like i need to get fitter and stretch my muscles a bit more - i used to swim and walk and cycle and garden - even with mild M.E. (although increasing my fitness over a certain threshold was impossible no matter how much exercise i did)
For me i believe that as my energy has improved i do more in the house and a little bit in the garden and this increases my activity to the point where i cant add in any exercise as well. For me i have come to the conclusion that just being more active in day to day life has to be as good as exercise, although i get depressed sometimes at all the weight i have gained and strength i have lost. If things are going well i can garden a couple of sessions in the week - but i cant even keep this up week in week out.
Its all so bloody frustrating!
Justy.
Great thanks! 156. The readings I thought were really odd were breathing freq, ventilation, and breathing reserve. I don't know if they are actually meaningful but they seemed to be off quite a bit.
I have some info on my papers related to "Ventilation" but there are so many acronyms that I can't tell if I have anything about breathing frequency and breathing reserve. If you want, I might be able to compare info with you if you can be more specific about the data. Too bad there's not a standard presentation of data so that easy comparisons can be made.
BTW: The AT of a healthy person is about 0.80(220 - age), so you can determine whether your AT is low for a person your age.
Soc, I'm sorry for being slow on the uptake but I don't understand your advice on how to work out your AT approx, the 0.80 (220-age). Please can you explain further. Big thank you