Putting methylation into perspective: the liver

[Gondwanaland]

it's on my list for "next things to try" - along w oxaloacetate, PQQ, and a liver cleanse:

• 15 mL (1 tbs) of apple cider vinegar four times a day for a week preceding the flush
• 6 AM – 1 tablespoon magnesium sulfate in one glass of water
• 8 AM – drank 1/4 cup olive oil blended with three-quarter cups grapefruit juice
• 12 AM – 1 tablespoon magnesium sulfate in one glass of water
• 2 PM – 1 tablespoon magnesium sulfate in one glass of water

Please let me know how you do on the them. I had a liver cleanse recipe with malic acid or apple juice instead of the vinegar, but 1/2 glass of apple juice causes oxalate dump in my bladder Then I never tried it.

 

[ebethc]

Please let me know how you do on the them. I had a liver cleanse recipe with malic acid or apple juice instead of the vinegar, but 1/2 glass of apple juice causes oxalate dump in my bladder Then I never tried it.

I've been using 1 tbs of Bragg's ACV, diluted in ~0.5C of water... 4x a day is ALOT and I can't do more than 2x... getting straws tomorrow so that acid doesn't melt my teeth

 

[WoolPippi]

@WoolPippi and @Gondwanaland

Have you tried gentian?

no I have not.

My bile production has tapered off, I don't know why. Acidifying the stomach acid doesn't help.
The only thing that has changed is that I started taking lots more of hydrocortisone (HC). Perhaps both HC and bile need the same liver enzym (CYP3A4, 5 and 7)? I don't know. It's a new riddle to me.

 

[jjxx]

@pogoman milk thistle is high in sulfur, histamine and salicylates. I took a lot of magnesium to be able to tolerate it. Now I love it. It actually mobilizes toxins though.

@Gondwanaland I am low in histamine, but reactive to sulfite. Would you think milk thistle an option for me? Thanks.

 

[jjxx]

it's on my list for "next things to try" - along w oxaloacetate, PQQ, and a liver cleanse:

• 15 mL (1 tbs) of apple cider vinegar four times a day for a week preceding the flush
• 6 AM – 1 tablespoon magnesium sulfate in one glass of water
• 8 AM – drank 1/4 cup olive oil blended with three-quarter cups grapefruit juice
• 12 AM – 1 tablespoon magnesium sulfate in one glass of water
• 2 PM – 1 tablespoon magnesium sulfate in one glass of water

Have you tried it, how do you think?

 

[lauluce]

thanks! I just got an elevated Alanine transaminase on a liver test, I'll read it!

 

[pogoman]

FWIW I've started back on molybdenum to help with sulfur issues (brain fade, fatigue) after starting high dose biotin and one a day thiamine last week (both sulfur B vitamins).
I did labs earlier this month pointing toward lactic acidosis as a possible reason for my nighttime muscle/joint pain and stiffness, both vitamins are used for various mito causes of high lactic acid.

 

[Gondwanaland]

Right now I am seeing methylation, chelation, paleo/lowcarb diets all under the uric acid perspective. Uric acid is the thing that seems to connect it all.

 

[Gondwanaland]

@Gondwanaland I am low in histamine, but reactive to sulfite. Would you think milk thistle an option for me? Thanks.

I built up tolerance to it slowly. If you google Milk thistle and estrogen you will see it has pro-estrogenic properties.

 

[mono]

Why not curcumin? It's not allowed?

 

[Carribeanboy]

Hello everybody,

I have low alkaline phosphatase and low cholesterol.Can somebody give me some insight?

 

[Little Bluestem]

No, but I wish I could give you some of my cholesterol.

 

[Gondwanaland]

Hello everybody,

I have low alkaline phosphatase and low cholesterol.Can somebody give me some insight?

Not that I recommend it, but drinking bulletproof coffee (with heavy cream / buttermilk) made my already high cholesterol skyrocket.

Many people that go on a low carb high fat diet see their cholesterol levels raise, but since it is a genetic response some people see no change, and others just get an improvement in their profile.

 

[jjxx]

Right now I am seeing methylation, chelation, paleo/lowcarb diets all under the uric acid perspective. Uric acid is the thing that seems to connect it all.

You may be interested in this paper related to UA form NCBI https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3359272/

 

[bond]

Has anyone considered the timing of supplements for liver detox?
I've heard the liver works hader during the night so would it make sense to take the supporting supplements at dinner?
Ben Lynch also suggests doing sauna in the evening for the same reason.