Poll: Viral vs. Non-Viral Onset and Contagious Relationship

Was your me/cfs onset viral/non-viral and if a close genetic/non-genetic family member have me/cfs?

  • I am female. My onset was viral. I have a genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 13 18.8%
  • I am female. My onset was viral. I DON'T have a genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 16 23.2%
  • I am female. My onset was viral. I have a NON-genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • I am female. My onset was viral. I DON'T have a NON-genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 12 17.4%
  • I am female. My onset was NON-viral. I have a genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • I am female. My onset was NON-viral. I DON'T have a genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • I am female. My onset was NON-viral. I have a NON-genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • I am female. My onset was NONviral. I DON'T have a NON-genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 1 1.4%
  • I am male. My onset was viral. I have a genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • I am male. My onset was viral. I DON'T have a genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 11 15.9%
  • I am male. My onset was viral. I have a NON-genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • I am male. My onset was viral. I DON'T have a NON-genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • I am male. My onset was NON-viral. I have a genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 4 5.8%
  • I am male. My onset was NON-viral. I DON'T have a genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 6 8.7%
  • I am male. My onset was NON-viral. I have a NON-genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am male. My onset was NON-viral. I DON'T have a NON-genetic famly member with me/cfs or symptoms

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Other. Please explain in thread.

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Total voters
    69

sorin

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I´m curious as to why people say they had a viral onset - how do you know it wasn´t bacterial? Or even fungal?
In my case it was a very strong flu (most probably caused by H1N1 swine flu) with respiratory complications, painful enlarged lymph nodes, fatigue, dizziness, muscular pain. So having this facts I can not see how I could consider this bacterial or fungal caused.
 
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A paper I came across that relates to viral vs non-viral CFS subtypes

"Significantly more individuals in the viral group (24%) reported cohabitating with individuals having
severe fatigue for six months or longer than did members of the non viral group (10%). These findings demonstrate that in the viral group, living in close proximity to others with fatiguing illnesses (possibly resultant of viral exposure) may play a role in the onset or maintenance of the illness."

Full article here http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3951052/

What's everyone's opinion on this study?
 
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msf

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My opinion is that they should have said infectious onset rather than viral.

From the paper:

Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) has been linked with exposure to several viruses and other infectious agents, with many onsets reported following primary infection with acute Mononucleosis, Lyme disease, and Q fever among others (Komaroff, 2000). Additionally, acute infections by enteroviruses may persist in patients resulting in manifestations of CFS (Chia & Chia 2008). Infection with or the reactivation of these viruses and possibly others (e.g., HSV-1, HHV-6, Epstein Barr virus, and Cytomegalovirus) may be involved the relapsing and remitting pathogenesis of CFS (Englebienne & De Meirleir, 2002).

It seems very sloppy to include Lyme and Q fever as viruses.
 

Tammy

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I´m curious as to why people say they had a viral onset - how do you know it wasn´t bacterial? Or even fungal?
Tested positive for EBV
Edit: Sorry for repetition..........just saw your subsequent question.
 
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