POLL: Has anyone recovered with the Gupta Program?

[Wishful]

To the right of the “Watch” menu is a box with three dots and a down arrow—click there and a menu opens.

I still can't find a watch menu. I even switched computers and browsers in case I had something turned off or unavailable. Are you sure it isn't a moderators only option?

 

[Sushi]

I still can't find a watch menu. I even switched computers and browsers in case I had something turned off or unavailable. Are you sure it isn't a moderators only option?

 

[Wishful]

Nope, my screen does not show the menu next to the 'watch' box. Do any regular members see that menu?

 

[Wishful]

Are you sure it isn't a moderators only option?

As a brand new moderator-in-training, the three-dot menu has suddenly appeared! I was now able to edit the title of my cumin thread (it's cyminum, not cynimum).

So, regular members don't get the option of editing their own titles. They'll have to ask a moderator to do it.

 

[Dufresne]

I also meditate and I can see that some types of meditation instructions could do this. Other types of meditation are just being mindful and aware of your thoughts--not trying to do something about them. Have you tried approaches like this, combined with intentional breathing?

Actually it's mindfulness I have a problem with. It does something to the energy in my brain and this can't be sustained. It may well be doing house cleaning of some sort, but the excitation produces a worsening in my condition. From my experimentation with norepinephrine re-uptake inhibitors I'd say that it's NE that is partly to blame for this paradoxical effect.

I've been doing Gupta's main exercise and it seems to be calming my wiredness quite well. I believe it's working on this norepinephrine system. I had a longstanding NRI-induced sexual side-effect lift within a couple weeks of starting Gupta. I'd had this problem for a few years. Just about all cleared up. So I've no doubt the main Gupta technique lowers stress hormones. Something I'd not been able to manage with any other relaxation/meditation approach. I'm also seeing immune strengthening effects resulting from this.

 

[YippeeKi YOW !!]

Do any regular members see that menu?

Yes, altho there's nothing that says 'Menu'. And you can only see it on a thread that you, personally, have opened. Click on the three horizontal dots at the far right of any thread you've opened, and you'll see the "edit" command. Click on that, and the title of the thread you've opened/posted will appear in a small edit box .... make whatever changes you want, then click save.

Done.

If you want to edit the text in a thread you've posted, I think the rules are about the same as editing anything you;ve posted: you have a certain period of time during which you can go back and change whatever, after that (usually a week) you'll need the help of a mod.

 

[YippeeKi YOW !!]

I don't think they have the answer for ME/CFS and I don't think their testimonials mean a lot.

Agree, and agree.

I think the reason that these flucking vultures (I include the Lightning Process, which in several ways is very similar to the Gupta Program) aim their bullshite at the ME/CFS population is because no one understands this illness, there's absolutely no real treatment for it that isn't experimental and, at least as far as the full population of patients goes, unproven, and therefore, no one can prove that you're selling ghost breath. And worse, killing hope and what little trust patients, after being medically gaslighted repeatedly, still cling to.

I did a lot better when I did my own research and experimentation and asked a lot of questions.

ABSOLUTELY !!!! At the very least, you'll be making your own mistaks and learning from the, rather than making someone else's and learning nothing that can help you craft your next approach to healing, or improving. Because ....:

No one right now has the answer for ME/CFS

When you say the Gupta program made you crash, can you pinpoint what aspect of it you think was responsible?

The fact that the "program" is unproven, unprovable, unworkable by anyone with moderate to severe ME, and total crepe?

There was a diagram of some sort on the floor and I was supposed to walk around it, I can't remember very well, and something about saying "stop" AND ignoring how I felt.

Wow. that TOTALLY sounds like The Lightening Process ....

If a group of whales is a "pod" and a group of crows is a "murder", what do you call a group of opportunistic, emotionally extortive vultures ( "....If it didnt work for you, it's your fault, not the program's. The program is perfect, YOU are flawed...")? A "strangle"? A "wretchedness"? A "slime trail"? .... open to suggestions here ....

Every time I read about one of these programs, and the desperate, fear and pain wracked ME sufferers who are praying for help from them, I get a pyroclastic flood of anger and depression .....

THERE ARE NO EASY ANSWERS!!! You can't meditate a shattered leg back to wholeness, you can't get rid of cancer with happy thoughts, you can't cure a deeply misunderstood illness with meditation and denial. Worse, denial that forces you to push yourself into severe PEM and a possibly permanent worsening of your condition.

You just can't.