My own experiences with the "paranormal"

[Hip]

One problem I've often pointed out with the idea that "intense magnetic fields" cause delusions/UFOs whatever, is such fields are about 10,000 times stronger than the Earth's magnetic field, you simply do NOT get that anywhere on Earth outside of of mucking aorund with incredibly powerful electromagnets and not over huge volumes of space required for so many witnesses etc

I don't think it is necessarily the case that you have to have intense magnetic fields to alter brain function.

Have you come across this area of medical research called picotesla magnetic fields? These ultra weak magnetic fields certainly alter brain function, as numerous studies have shown. Picotesla magnetic fields have been used to experimentally treat diseases like Parkinson's. Refs: 1, 2.

As the name suggest, picotesla magnetic fields have an intensity around 10^-12 Telsa (the metric prefix pico signifies 10^-12). By comparison, the Earth's magnetic field is around 10^-5 Telsa, and a fridge magnet is around 10^-2 Telsa (0.01 Telsa). This means picotesla magnetic fields are around 10 million times weaker than the Earth's magnetic field. Yet they affect brain function, and can ameliorate certain neurological diseases like Parkinson's.

You can also use picotesla magnetic fields with frequencies that match the alpha or theta brainwave frequencies to induce spiritual effects in the brain. I can vouch for this effect myself, as years ago, before I got ME/CFS, I built my own picotesla magnetic field generator (easy to build if you know something about electronics), and when I applied alpha or theta brainwave frequencies to myself, I developed a strong spiritual meditative state, very similar to the one you get after doing several hours of mindfulness meditation (which I have experience of). The frequency of an oscillating magnetic fields is just as important as the power level.


Tectonic Strain Theory of Visitations

Oscillating magnetic fields can be generated at tectonic plate fault lines on the Earth: the pressure on the rocks beneath can cause an electric current to flow, via the piezoelectric effect, and this electric current in turn can generate oscillating magnetic fields.

There is a theory by Dr Michael Persinger that visitations (whether visitations by the Virgin Mary in times past, or in modern times, by aliens/UFO's, etc) are triggered by the effect of oscillating magnetic fields at seismic fault lines and tectonic plates. This theory is known as the Tectonic Strain Theory.

Tectonic Strain Theory References:
Michael Persinger - Wikipedia
Tectonic Strain Theory by Michael A. Peringer

I am not arguing that mystical, spiritual and paranormal experiences can all be explained away by such theories. Even if it is true that oscillating magnetic fields trigger the brain to have these experiences, which I suspect it is, that does not mean that all experiences are invalidated. The magnetic trigger may just bring out something already there in the brain, such as epilepsy, with the magnetic trigger just precipitating an ictal experience. Epileptics have historically been considered as spiritual "seers".

It is also interesting that two areas of known high seismic activity, namely California and the Middle East, both are deeply steeped in spiritual and religious fervour: California is home to more zany religious cults than anywhere else in America; and the Middle East, though more conservative in its religious tastes, is equally as fanatic.

 

[Little Bluestem]

You can also use picotesla magnetic fields with frequencies that match the alpha or theta brainwave frequencies to induce spiritual effects in the brain. I can vouch for this effect myself, as years ago, before I got ME/CFS, I built my own picotesla magnetic field generator (easy to build if you know something about electronics), and when I applied alpha or theta brainwave frequencies to myself, I developed a strong spiritual meditative state, very similar to the one you get after doing several hours of mindfulness meditation (which I have experience of). The frequency of an oscillating magnetic fields is just as important as the power level.

Could the 'right' frequency improve sleep?

 

[Hip]

Could the 'right' frequency improve sleep?

This study seems to be exploring that possibility.

 

[Joan of Arc]

The paranormal is fairly normal for me too thou not as much now that I dont do any healing, kundalini or energy work.

That's the first time Ive ever heard anyone say there is a link between ME/CFS and alien (and miltary) abduction. Ive read thou before that some think that ME/CFS has a link to healers and starseeds (the theory goes that the lighter energy bodies dont handle the dense environments we are in so chronic illnesses like ME/CFS develop). I can say thou that Ive never knowingly in real life phyiscally met another healer who has ME/CFS thou, thou I've known hundreds. So I dont really believe in that theory.

I would qualify as both. I used to do healing work; and my mother, father, & mother's current husband all told me I am an alien (or "starseed" as some call them). And I definitely have CFIDS/ME.

Very interesting the UFO ME/CFS theory thing .. as I saw my first UFO when I was at college (not at the college) and it was when I was at college that I developed ME/CFS, I actually had two UFO incidences in the same year.. others where also present and saw them too so I know it wasnt some halluncination unless we all halluncinated.

I also have multiple witnesses to my incidents.

I'd actually undergone some psychic spiritual attacks, one which was a very serious one and which almost took my life.. a couple of people saved me (a cult?? it was a group who worked with energy, actually tried to kill me.. and also by some other things) for a while before that... hahaha.. now people will think Im nuts.

I don't think you are nuts, as I have had the same experiences!!!. And am still having them... I was almost killed, an dam under extreme attack still.

One of my energy teachers (Alton Kamadom he used to go by) .. was watched by one of the American agencies..they actually gate crashed one of his courses he held in Sydney Australia (I think the American gov were still investigating at the time what they called remote viewing, this happened actually after they say they stopped studying it... I cant think of any other reason they showed up except for that so they've told lies about when they ended the government remote veiwing program. We didnt call it remote viewing... we called it bilocation and used to try to go (astrally) into the future in groups..picking up things such as future presidents etc before they were even known about (it came true too). My teacher ended up when in his 50s and Ive always wondered if he was killed in some form of psychic walfare (there had previously been an attempt to run him off the road by a black helicopter).

I have huge amounts of experience with black helicopters, remote viewing/bilocation.

Now I guess I just have another thing which I can say.. maybe ALIENS was related to me getting ME/CFS LOL. (It can go along with the hep B vaccinations I had redone in college, studying too hard while also being a sole carer of a disabled child, fluroide overdose, previous mono and all the other things my body has gone throu ie sheep dips).

Im still into some psych stuff .. more recently taking photos of spirit balls. Ive posted a couple of my spirit ball photos on this site in the past. umm I just had a thought.. I wonder if I could get a UFO photo the same kind of way if I tried thou I havent seen ufos for probably over 10 years. Would aliens respond and pose a craft for photos as spirits do? Probably not thou I have once had purposeful interaction from one but it would be interesting to try and see.

My place is filled with orbs, and they have been photographed & videotaped.

On the subject of abductions and ME/CFS, I actually have been aducted at least once I know of (astral abduction).. That was done via the reptilians cause I'd done something which they didnt like making them quite mad at me. I cant now remember now what year it was.. if I already had ME/CFS or not (I'd have to work it out). I did have a missing time incident thou when physically walking throu a house block back from taking my children to school, before I got ME/CFS.

correction.. two astral astral abductions.. the very first one I dont know what alien group or who abducted me.. I was on a cold metal table being pushed down a straight coridoor with something pushing the table (it wasnt in m line of vision and I couldnt move from the table). No idea what year that was in either or if i already had ME/CFS at the time or not. Ive no idea what happened next as I blanked out. No one else in my family has had abduction experiences.. thou my sister who now has CFS (who I believe caught it from using my glass)..she once saw a reptilian when I did. I think that's just coincidental.

I am new here, and don't really know how to do things on this forum, but we need to talk taniaaust1!!! We have a lot in common! My comments are in blue, as I don't know how to break up the quote yet.

 

[Joan of Arc]

I found that article that was being refered to.. about someone researching the connection between ME/CFS and abductions http://www.abduct.com/features/f10.php If what he is saying is actually true about those people...that would certainly then be WOW.

Like the other on that article.. I used to attend a group who had a big interest in UFOS, aliens... The Adelaide "Cosmic Connection" group. Some of us used to also go out on trips UFO spotting at times (must say thou I never once saw one while out with this group.. some of them thought what I was sure were satalites were UFOS!! Quite imaginative

(Im not really believing there is a link between the things or my own experiences..but just are finding all this interesting).
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I had some "etheric" alien implants (from the greys.. I cant remember now if I had some reptilians ones too) removed, I had them in three different layers (quite infested with them) in some of my chakras (crown, third eye were affected) . I had them properly removed so shouldnt have got those back. As far as I know.. I arent carrying any more and hopefully have stayed clear of these for years now.

HOW DO YOU REMOVE THEM????!!!!

 

[Joan of Arc]

taniaaust1

Hi tania,

Thanks for sharing you interesting experience. I've tried to learn a little about aliens and spirits recently. Dr Allen J Hynek believes that Alien abduction may actually be paranormal, and that UFO's are likely a type of "illuminati technology".

Here is an interesting recently experience with UFO's over New York and San francisco recently....It looks to me like they could be aliens or spirits instead of a physical craft. (not that crafts don't exist too)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rted-San-Francisco-New-York-days-another.html

Just curious if you think it is actually "angels/demons"(spirits) you are dealing with in the spirit world, and not really a flesh and blood "alien". I've read it is hard to tell if one has a demon or angel when they evoke these things. EA Koetting (Has written some books on the topic) believes that Lucifer actually shows up as a little baby when evoked.

These things will lie apparently, and it is hard to know what one actually has when they ask it for help.

Thanks
jarod

The Illuminati is definitely heavily involved in this stuff.

 

[taniaaust1]

HOW DO YOU REMOVE THEM????!!!!

For anyone wondering that.. advanced healers who have a lot of awareness can usually remove them. You will need a person who is a lightworker who gets angelic or divine guidence or does angelic or spiritual healing of the psychic surgery or intradimensional healing kind.
who has the skill.

Note those who do general pranic healing, reiki channels and the spiritual healers from the spiritualist churches.. usually wont have awareness of these and wont be able to help. Even an advanced pranic healer (such as those from the Master Choa Kok Sui teachings) thou they can feel things like this if they tune in.. they wont have the know how on the removal.. these implants can be sometimes rigged up to need to be removed in certain orders or a certain way not to go activating things if tampered with. It is often not a matter of just being able to pull them out of the energy field. If not removed right..they often come back hence just cause someone can see or feel them such as a shaman may be able to do.. but that dont necessarily mean that person can successfully remove.

There are those out there who specialise in the removal of these things and who can help stop the aliens from doing this to you. Sorry I can only make recommendations of who to try to see about this stuff in Australia and not familar with others who do this stuff overseas.

 

[Wifi123]

In 1972 the Russian military agency stated that the low frequency electromagnetic fields have been found to generate oscillations in living organisms, and if the frequency of the outside field corresponds to the oscillation frequency of the cells, the latter deteriorate as a result of the mechanical resonance. We now find that the spiritual spectrum is exactly same as the frequency spectrum. The low and weak radiation that is below thermal levels can cause neurological, cardiovascular and haemodynamic disturbances. These implants you speak of, I only know them as satanic pins and inserts, and on each a demon/spirit is attached. Once you evict them from your soul, they will wander around in the airways and return to see if they can come back into the area they had left. yes, these angels you speak of or aliens are the Nephilim and Watchers of old.

 

[cigana]

I don't think it is necessarily the case that you have to have intense magnetic fields to alter brain function.


Tectonic Strain Theory References:
Michael Persinger - Wikipedia
Tectonic Strain Theory by Michael A. Peringer

I am not arguing that mystical, spiritual and paranormal experiences can all be explained away by such theories. Even if it is true that oscillating magnetic fields trigger the brain to have these experiences, which I suspect it is, that does not mean that all experiences are invalidated. The magnetic trigger may just bring out something already there in the brain, such as epilepsy, with the magnetic trigger just precipitating an ictal experience..

That's a very interesting post. I don't think it could possibly explain all of the evidence there is for alien abductions, as for example that laid out in the video on this thread I just started: http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...ad-what-about-alien-abduction-syndrome.32460/

 

[cigana]

After researching the UFO and Alien phenomena solidly for the past week, I'm fairly certain it is a reality.
I can't help but wonder about the possible links (causative) with MECFS. Tough to talk about this though without offending people.

 

[Hip]

That's a very interesting post. I don't think it could possibly explain all of the evidence there is for alien abductions, as for example that laid out in the video on this thread I just started: http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...ad-what-about-alien-abduction-syndrome.32460/

Have you looked at the connection between temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE) or temporal lobe instability and alien abduction experiences?

Alien Abduction - the Inside Story

 

[cigana]

Have you looked at the connection between temporal lobe epilepsy or temporal lobe instability and alien abduction experiences?

Alien Abduction - the Inside Story

Interesting article, but I'd say it's a long long way from any kind of proof, just yet another in a long list of weak theories.
I don't think it can account for the worldwide consistency in experiences as alluded to by David Jacobs. Why would people exposed to magnetic fields all experience the same thing all over the world to such a high degree? Why do these people always turn off video surveillance? If magnetic fields are the cause why isn't there a strong correlation of experiences by people who sleep together?

 

[Hip]

No, the magnetic fields would just be a trigger for an existing brain condition such as TLE. But TLE can also trigger itself without such fields.

A very similar phenomenon to alien abduction is seeing gnomes. This is part of the Irish folklore, and the folklore in other countries too. The country I believe with the highest percentage of the population that sees gnomes walking around the landscape is Iceland.

These gnome can't just be regular hallucinations, because only gnome entities are seen. Their visual form is consistent from person to person. Likewise with alien abductions: the entities have the same visual form, consisting of large eyes and smooth faces. Kind of the diametric opposite of the gnomes, which have deeply furrowed faces. It seems to me that these entities might be sort of facial archetypes in the psyche. That might explain the consistency of hallucination from person to person.


One other interesting possible association with both gnome sitings and alien abductions is the hallucinogen DMT (dimethyltryptamine). DMT is naturally found in some plants, and if I remember correctly, at a certain time of year in Iceland a lot of DMT-containing mushrooms or plants appear (or was it psilocybin, a relative of DMT). These may be used in food, perhaps leading to gnome hallucinations.

DMT, Aliens, and Reality—Part 1 | Psychology Today

 

[taniaaust1]

@Hip Its interesting that the gnomes are seen in only in certain parts of the world, they dont go seeing those in Australia.

I tend to think that other beings and worlds exist at different frequencies over ridiing our own and maybe those gnomes are indigeous to that part of the world.

 

[Hip]

@Hip Its interesting that the gnomes are seen in only in certain parts of the world, they dont go seeing those in Australia.

I tend to think that other beings and worlds exist at different frequencies over ridiing our own and maybe those gnomes are indigeous to that part of the world.

Yes, it is strange that it's only in certain parts of the world that gnomes are seen. They are a part of Nordic folklore, so you imagine that people have been seeing these gnomes for millennia.

I think though alien abduction is fairly recent, and must be culturally driven, probably by sci fi movies or books about aliens and spaceships. HG Wells wrote The War of the Worlds about aliens from Mars in 1898.

 

[cigana]

Yes, it is strange that it's only in certain parts of the world that gnomes are seen. They are a part of Nordic folklore, so you imagine that people have been seeing these gnomes for millennia.

I think though alien abduction is fairly recent, and must be culturally driven, probably by Sci Fi movies showing aliens and spaceships.

According to the likes of David Jacobs and John Mack, the alien abduction phenomena can be traced back to the late 19th century.
They also occur in communities with no connection to western culture.

 

[cigana]

No, the magnetic fields would just be a trigger for an existing brain condition such as TLE. But TLE can also trigger itself without such fields.

A very similar phenomenon to alien abduction is seeing gnomes. This is part of the Irish folklore, and the folklore in other countries too. The country I believe with the highest percentage of the population that sees gnomes walking around the landscape is Iceland.

These gnome can't just be regular hallucinations, because only gnome entities are seen. Their visual form is consistent from person to person. Likewise with alien abductions: the entities have the same visual form, consisting of large eyes and smooth faces. Kind of the diametric opposite of the gnomes, which have deeply furrowed faces. It seems to me that these entities might be sort of facial archetypes in the psyche. That might explain the consistency of hallucination from person to person.


One other interesting possible association with both gnome sitings and alien abductions is the hallucinogen DMT (dimethyltryptamine). DMT is naturally found in some plants, and if I remember correctly, at a certain time of year in Iceland a lot of DMT-containing mushrooms or plants appear (or was it psilocybin, a relative of DMT). These may be used in food, perhaps leading to gnome hallucinations.

DMT, Aliens, and Reality—Part 1 | Psychology Today

The MDT theory is interesting but like the other theories goes no where close to explaining all of the really weird consistencies in alien abductions, like the appearence of scars and waking up with somebody else's clothes on.
Very interesting to hear about gnomes, I wonder if those sightings also include really weird consistencies.