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Suzy Chapman Owner of Dx Revision Watch
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Hi Frances,
Thanks very much for making this available.
(In case some readers are not aware, AYME has issued no policy statement on this pilot. All the national patient organisations were contacted early on for position statements. Action for M.E., the ME Association jointly with The Young ME Sufferers Trust, and The 25% ME Group have issued statements; also Invest in ME and BRAME. But no statement from AYME.)
(Also for those who aren't aware, Dr Esther Crawley is the Medical Consultant to AYME. Earlier in this thread is an article on the study published in May, in AYME's Link newsletter.)
A couple of points to add to those of Angela's.
I note that the response from the "Grants and Projects Manager" is described as
"a personal response"
why is a spokesperson for AYME responding in a "personal" capacity?
Given that AYME will have received a number of requests for a position statement, and given that they are our largest UK children's and young person's patient organisation, they should have been prepared to issue a position statement.
"Mary-Jane takes very seriously my allegations that this would harm children and breach human rights, and so she keenly awaits the decision of the ethics panel; she believes that they will examine these points, including whether the research could feasibly be carried out on adults, and whether it would put participants at risk of harm.
Mary-Jane would also oppose the research if these were the case, but at the moment, she does not see grounds to doubt the good faith of the research team. "
So like Action for M.E., AYME chooses to defer to the views of an REC, when it is not known what information was set before the REC and what their understanding of LP is and when it is not generally known what the design and methods for this pilot are and how and by whom the intervention is going to be applied.
Dr Crawley is a Medical Advisor to AYME, it seems unlikely that AYME would not have sought to discuss the design of the pilot with her.
Why weren't AYME and The Young ME Sufferers Trust consulted about the project before an application for ethics approval was submitted in June?
(The application for funding had been submitted last year and funding was secured in November 09; the pilot was announced at the beginning of March, although at 6 September I was told that the pilot was study "is still at the final stage of the ethics procedure". Nothing received from U of Bristol FOI, today, by the way.)
"...many researchers have been discouraged by extremely negative and hostile reactions from a small part of the M.E. community."
Here we go again: so that's Bosely, White, Parry, Shepherd, Spencer, Holgate and now AYME.
Anyway, Frances, thank you for your persistance with AYME and for making this available.
Suzy
Thanks very much for making this available.
(In case some readers are not aware, AYME has issued no policy statement on this pilot. All the national patient organisations were contacted early on for position statements. Action for M.E., the ME Association jointly with The Young ME Sufferers Trust, and The 25% ME Group have issued statements; also Invest in ME and BRAME. But no statement from AYME.)
(Also for those who aren't aware, Dr Esther Crawley is the Medical Consultant to AYME. Earlier in this thread is an article on the study published in May, in AYME's Link newsletter.)
A couple of points to add to those of Angela's.
I note that the response from the "Grants and Projects Manager" is described as
"a personal response"
why is a spokesperson for AYME responding in a "personal" capacity?
Given that AYME will have received a number of requests for a position statement, and given that they are our largest UK children's and young person's patient organisation, they should have been prepared to issue a position statement.
"Mary-Jane takes very seriously my allegations that this would harm children and breach human rights, and so she keenly awaits the decision of the ethics panel; she believes that they will examine these points, including whether the research could feasibly be carried out on adults, and whether it would put participants at risk of harm.
Mary-Jane would also oppose the research if these were the case, but at the moment, she does not see grounds to doubt the good faith of the research team. "
So like Action for M.E., AYME chooses to defer to the views of an REC, when it is not known what information was set before the REC and what their understanding of LP is and when it is not generally known what the design and methods for this pilot are and how and by whom the intervention is going to be applied.
Dr Crawley is a Medical Advisor to AYME, it seems unlikely that AYME would not have sought to discuss the design of the pilot with her.
Why weren't AYME and The Young ME Sufferers Trust consulted about the project before an application for ethics approval was submitted in June?
(The application for funding had been submitted last year and funding was secured in November 09; the pilot was announced at the beginning of March, although at 6 September I was told that the pilot was study "is still at the final stage of the ethics procedure". Nothing received from U of Bristol FOI, today, by the way.)
"...many researchers have been discouraged by extremely negative and hostile reactions from a small part of the M.E. community."
Here we go again: so that's Bosely, White, Parry, Shepherd, Spencer, Holgate and now AYME.
Anyway, Frances, thank you for your persistance with AYME and for making this available.
Suzy