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I never posted that
mr kite! Lol
mr kite! Lol
FDA and NIH confirm WPI XMRV findings (report of leaked presentation)
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Still, though, WPI percentages are very high, so I think this is going to be it! yaaaaaaaaahoooooooooooo
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validation
I hope the CDC chokes on their own vomit!!!!!
I hope the CDC chokes on their own vomit!!!!!
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CDC and DHEC just replied back to me today, they don't have a f--king clue!!!!!
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I hope we can get our lives back!
The association is very high, it could be very likely. I'm just saying (or, the studies actually are saying) that it's not yet proved to be the cause. It could be, for example, that exposure to a certain kind of cosmic ray causes CFS, and then because our immune systems are fucked up from the cosmic rays, it's then very easy for us to get XMRV. That doesn't mean yet that XMRV causes CFS. XMRV could be totally harmless, except for prostate cancer risk.
Originally Posted by kurt
In print at a closed conference is NOT the same as published. That information was not intended for public announcement. Therefore this is preliminary, and until a paper or public announcement appears, announced by proper channels, this is still a rumor.
kurt...please give it a rest. let us feel happy that there may finally be a major breathru in this horrendous disease. why are you protesting sooo much!!!!
"It feels like that to me now. The more she shouts, the more she insults, the more likely her work will fall into ruin and her work will lie in the science rubble heap."martlet quote
looks like someone owes judy m a huge apology. this statement was incredibly rude when it was first made but in light of what we have learned today it is really depressing that a cfid's support group board moderator made such a insulting remark about the woman whose research may finally lead us to recovery.
In print at a closed conference is NOT the same as published. That information was not intended for public announcement. Therefore this is preliminary, and until a paper or public announcement appears, announced by proper channels, this is still a rumor.
kurt...please give it a rest. let us feel happy that there may finally be a major breathru in this horrendous disease. why are you protesting sooo much!!!!
"It feels like that to me now. The more she shouts, the more she insults, the more likely her work will fall into ruin and her work will lie in the science rubble heap."martlet quote
looks like someone owes judy m a huge apology. this statement was incredibly rude when it was first made but in light of what we have learned today it is really depressing that a cfid's support group board moderator made such a insulting remark about the woman whose research may finally lead us to recovery.
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yaaaaaaaaahooooooooooo!
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throw me a bone MrKite, let me be a little overly excited?
throw me a bone MrKite, let me be a little overly excited?
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yaaaaaaaahoooooooo!
Be excited if you want, but just realize that it's premature. I know if I went to any doctor with this information, they would still say the same thing: that there's nothing they can do because there is still no proof that XMRV causes CFS. Which is true. Then they would continue implying it was some kind of psychological malady or defect.
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As many of you know, I am in the news media business.
I don't know much about how news media works in Netherlands. But usually, reporters go snooping with intuition. Then they just stumble across something. They just keep coming back (if they have the time and resources to pursue it). They get a person to leak them information. And then they get confirmation (in document or second firsthand source). Then, they call someone at that agency to say, "We have this information and we are going forward with the story. We would like your comment."
Sometimes, at that point, a reporter may be asked to hold it. It depends on the public right to know and need to know at that time compared to the benefits of waiting or harm done to release at that time as to whether the reporters go forward or hold back. Not long ago, we had case where New York Times held story of US bugging folks without judge order. They held the story for a year, at the request of Pentagon, I think. But they finally decided that it was time.
So, I can imagine these reporters had been following the XMRV, talking to researchers. And that led them to the conference and someone leaked them the Alter presentation document. So they called the Dutch blood supply folks and said, "We have this and are going forward with the story, do you have a comment on the danger to blood supply?"
So, the Dutch blood supply folks decided they needed to get ahead of the story and release it themselves in a press release. Do we really think they just found out about this today or last week if the comments are from May 26 and 27?
So why now? Possibly, study about to come out (in print now) and two nosy reporters said they were going to release it before that.
Of course, this is speculation. Isn't this fun?
But I have to get something to eat. And I have to write two articles tonight myself.
Tina
I don't know much about how news media works in Netherlands. But usually, reporters go snooping with intuition. Then they just stumble across something. They just keep coming back (if they have the time and resources to pursue it). They get a person to leak them information. And then they get confirmation (in document or second firsthand source). Then, they call someone at that agency to say, "We have this information and we are going forward with the story. We would like your comment."
Sometimes, at that point, a reporter may be asked to hold it. It depends on the public right to know and need to know at that time compared to the benefits of waiting or harm done to release at that time as to whether the reporters go forward or hold back. Not long ago, we had case where New York Times held story of US bugging folks without judge order. They held the story for a year, at the request of Pentagon, I think. But they finally decided that it was time.
So, I can imagine these reporters had been following the XMRV, talking to researchers. And that led them to the conference and someone leaked them the Alter presentation document. So they called the Dutch blood supply folks and said, "We have this and are going forward with the story, do you have a comment on the danger to blood supply?"
So, the Dutch blood supply folks decided they needed to get ahead of the story and release it themselves in a press release. Do we really think they just found out about this today or last week if the comments are from May 26 and 27?
So why now? Possibly, study about to come out (in print now) and two nosy reporters said they were going to release it before that.
Of course, this is speculation. Isn't this fun?
But I have to get something to eat. And I have to write two articles tonight myself.
Tina
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Alright, I know what you're saying is true, but when you turn your back, Im gonna party like it's 2010!
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afaik there is no proof that smoking causes lung cancer - a very strong correlation but no proof - pretty sure the correlation isnt 98% either (ie that 98% of people that smoke get lung cancer)
proof is a subjective term outside of mathematics