Hi Han
I have just re-read this entire thread again, and noticed you said: "Every morning when I open my eyes, I know another miserable day begins. I feel scared to be exposed to the sunshine and only darkness makes feel a little bit secure." THIS IS PRECISELY THE SAME FOR ME, I KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL. I AVOID THE DAYTIME LIGHT AND NOISE, AND SURVIVE ONLY IN THE CALMNESS OF NIGHT. For many years now I almost hoped that I would suddenly drop dead, because my mental state was so bad. I felt like this every day for 5 years. For me the trouble was not the mental fatigue, or memory problems, or even the depression, but more the extreme misery of intense constant anxiety, plus anhedonia - the loss of all emotion, and all sense of pleasure in life, which gives a sense of having your "life force" taken from you.
However, in the last year, I think the herbs, etc, that I am taking are making my symptoms much better, so this has improved my psychological state. But it took many years of trying every herb or supplement I could get, to find the ones that worked for me.
Like you, I am also worried about the effects of my virus on the rest of the world. I observed that approximately 1 in 10 people who catch my virus get the VERY SEVERE symptoms that I got. The other 9 out of 10 are OK, - but it is clear that they are permanently a little more tired, depressed, many getting fine skin wrinkles, and lacking in enthusiasm for life (that is, they also have a degree of anhedonia). And everyone's memory is affected to some level. My virus has also apparently caused heart attacks (cardiac arrest) in some people, and cases of myocarditis (infection of the heart muscle), pericarditis (infection of the membrane lining that surrounds the heart). It may be that your chest pains are a mild ongoing heart infection like this - or some lung problem
.--some infected was diagnosed the lung problem.
Comparison of Symptoms
It is very interesting to read your above responses (in the comparison of symptoms) to my list of symptoms. Nearly every comment you have added is very close what I have observed in my virus, including the prevalence (that is, what percentage of the infected people having each listed symptom). For example, you say "progressive loss of hearing -- some yes, some no". This is the same here. In the case of hearing loss, I noticed that older people 60+ are very rapidily affected by this hearing loss. Nobody has become deaf, just say 30% loss of hearing. All the senses, in fact, touch, sight, taste, smell and hearing seem to degrade slightly, losing their acuity.
THE MOST IMPORTANT SIMILARITY is the parchment-like wrinkling of the skin: only because this is a very unusual symptom, so the fact that it identical adds weight to the possibility we have the same virus.--
Some infected did claim their skin is like elder people's because of the virus, but lots don't have this.Other symptom similarities are not so important: for example, muscles aches, pins and needles, fatigue, sore throat - these are commonly found in many types of viral infection, so they are not unique to any one virus.
I think the main differences between the symptom list for your virus, and the symptom list for mine, are as follows:
MINE: Only a few people get chest pains - and mostly this is acute pains, not chronic, usually connected to heart infections. Some people have had non-fatal heart attacks directly after catching my virus (enterovirus often attacks the heart).
YOURS: Everyone has chest pains.
REMARKS: I cannot explain this difference.--
the chest pain results from lung co-infection here in China.MINE: Many people with this virus (2 out of 3) get a chronic sinus infection, and/or constant heavy mucus in their nose. The is no pain in the sinus infection - just a mild feeling of pressure inside the head.
YOURS: Nobody has this sinus infection or constant mucus.
REMARKS: Since I understand that cow's milk and dairy products are eaten very rarely in China, and since milk strongly promotes sinus infections and mucus build-up in the nose, the lack of cow's milk/dairy in your diet might explain why nobody in your group of people has thee symptoms, compared to people here.
Catching the Virus
I caught my virus just from kissing.--
In China, most of the infected caught the virus from oral sex without condom (almost 100% if without condom when having oral sex). But even some with condom, still get infected. I then (a year later) gave it to other person through kissing (before I realized that it was dangerous virus) - and have given this virus to many more people, just by normal social contact at home, in the office, or say in a restaurant or public place. It is a respiratory virus, so it passes from person-to-person via saliva and/or nasal secretions. I noticed that it passes very easily when you are eating or drinking with people at the same table. I think this is because during talking and conversation, small specks of saliva can be ejected from your mouth, and onto other people's plates of food, or in their drinks, which then gets into their body. Like any respiratory virus, my virus must make contact with the mucus membranes (the gastrointestinal and respiratory tract) to be able to infect. --
it explains some infected pass the virus to the people sharing dinner with him at one table. Very obvious.
I noticed you indicated that your virus spreads to all household members, once once person has it - though NOT IN ALL CASES, for some reason. Well, first let me say that for my virus, I noticed it took more than a year to pass to all household members, when one member was infected. So my virus is not actually very contagious. For example, a cold or influenza tends to spread very quickly around the house in days. So this virus is much less contagious than a cold or influenza virus. Does your virus have this type of level of contagiousness?--
as I told you, some will very easily pass the virus to others and infected all the people in the same office. But some not. If so, it again supports the idea that we have the same virus.
Possibly one reason that it does not spread in certain households, once on member has caught it, is because that member may not have a throat or nasal infection from the virus, just brain, gut, lung, etc, infection. This means that they will not be shedding any of their viruses into the environment, as they will have no viruses in their saliva or nasal secretions - the virus in only found deep in their body. Only around 1 out of 3 people with my virus actually get a chronic sore throat. So I bet this explains your observations that your virus does not always spread to everyone in the home, even though one person already has the virus. If that person does not have the chronic sore throat symptom, they are much less contagious.--
will confirm with other infected, it explains.
Incubation Period of my Virus
My virus has an extremely rapid incubation period, sometimes as fast as 8 hours. This is unusually fast, and is a quite unique feature of this virus. The incubation period is the time between the virus entering your body, and the arrival of the first symptoms (such as the sore throat or stomach ache). Many respiratory viruses take several days to weeks to incubate. So this rapid incubation period, that can be well under 24 hours, can be used as an identifying feature of the virus I caught.
Have you made any observations on the incubation period of your virus?
--very soon, within a few hours, you will feel not right, such as desire to omit and sweating and fever. The incubation period can sometimes be observed in a situation when, for example, you meet a friend socially at a certain time (say eating in a restaurant together at a certain time). Then, if that friend they were to unfortunately catch the virus at the time they were with you, and if you know at what time later their first symptoms appeared (
the first symptoms are the usually the sore throat--[COLOR="darkred"]appear very soon, or stomach ache-after several months[/COLOR]), then you can easily calculate the incubation period.
Nowadays I am more careful to try not to eject saliva when I am in close company with people.
The incubation period is very useful scientific information that helps identify and characterize a virus.
Anti-HIV drugs????
I note that you say that many people with Fear of AIDS Disease are taking anti-HIV drugs (even though they test HIV negative). Have you considered that these drugs may be making their symptoms much worse? Anti-HIV drugs put a heavy strain on the human body, and are probably entirely useless for your virus. They are likely to harm the health of those who take them. The only possible exception is the anti-HIV drug AZT (azidothymidine), which may have efficacy against XMRV.
Some claimed it works, some said it does not work at all. I know people take TCM anti-aids drugs. Will cofirm and let you know.
No known human retrovirus (HTLV-I, HTLV-II, HIV and XMRV) can transmit from person-to-person via respiratory secretions. So you must follow logic here, and realize that the retrovirus idea is unlikely (but keep an open mind), and concentrate on the types of viruses that can be transmitted via saliva.
This is the hope we can be saved. non-retrovirus.
Enterovirus Hypothesis
Please note that Dr John Chia very kindly read my blog (
http://chronicsorethroat.wordpress.com/), and said that, in his opinion, my symptoms were most likely caused by an enterovirus. There are 68 human viruses in the enterovirus genus, and there are probably many more in circulation that have yet to be discovered and named. And, even though we are in the 21st century, the are still many difficulties in detecting and identifying enterovirus. So getting to the answer may be hard work. But it has to be done!!!
