yes, i noticed this too. cognitive work is much harder on me than physical.
doing better, wondering why...
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Did the eggs do the trick?
i think they contribute, yes
today i feel kinda crappy even though i keep eating eggs with my lunch but i slept very poorly. so poorly in fact i had to go back to bed after breakfast and then i felt off for a couple of hours after waking up. but in general i am still doing better.
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I wonder if it's the choline in the eggs which helps so much,? Choline is really important for brain health. Several years ago I started taking supplemental choline and my memory improved within a week. I still take it, though not at night - it's too stimulating then and will cause insomnia for me.
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I think everything we've been taught about cholesterol is wrong, including optimum levels. Eggs are not the problem, and probably not even butter. I suggest checking out some of Sten Ekberg's videos, such as the one below. Sten Ekberg is a former Swedish decathlon athlete (1992) and is now a health care practitioner in the U.S. He has a youtube channel and has done a whole slew of videos on health. He's very articulate and precise and explains whatever he's talking about in great detail, step by step - he even talks about reversing diabetes and explains how and why various foods affect our bodies -
Yes, that's what I thought as well. Supplemental choline may be very helpful.
I wish I could be the egg type, I love eggs.
Lack of sleep can do that. You may respond well also to TMG or betaine, if yes, it would mean that supporting your methylation is crucial.
thanks, i will order some with my next iherb purchase. does it help with sleep?
I think choline supplement would be a good first try, if you want to take supplements of course. Typical dose per capsule is 250mg choline, which is like about 1,7 eggs, one average egg has 150mg of choline. Choline can be converted to TMG in our bodies to enter methylation cycle.
TMG supports methylation. Betaine as betaine HCl supports digestion and stimulates the release of digestive enzymes. So, depends on what you want to achieve? TMG and betaine are both glycine based which can cause anxiety in some people, then some react to glycine very well. Glycine as a separate supplement makes these people calmer and they fall asleep easier, I am not sure if TMG or betaine HCl would have the same effect, they might as well be stimulating.
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It’s the Choline as someone mentioned earlier which supports the cell membrane . Check the hypothesis from Tamara Karnac. Choline was most likely responsible for my recovery too
thank you! interestingly the diagram starts with folic acid something that helped me with tachycardia...
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Sorry there was an error in the surname
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202409.1467/v2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norepinephrine
very interesting, especially the part about "inhibits [...] gastrointestinal motility" i could definitely use some of that!
would "Choline Bitartrate" be the correct supplement for this?
edit: seems weird but r/cfs returns zero search results for "choline"
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Choline bitartrate is the most used form, for example in 300 mg capsules - 2 eggs provide the same - or less in multis. If you use as bulk powder, then choline bitartrate contains 41% choline.
Phosphatidylcholine, the same as in eggs, is also available as supplement, but contains 13% choline only. 1 g Soy-lecithin contains 230 mg Phospatidylcholine and 30 mg choline.
Finally, there are rather expensive Citicoline and alpa-GPC, used for brain health. Haven't seen choline citrate since a long time.
Phosphatidylcholine, the same as in eggs, is also available as supplement, but contains 13% choline only. 1 g Soy-lecithin contains 230 mg Phospatidylcholine and 30 mg choline.
Finally, there are rather expensive Citicoline and alpa-GPC, used for brain health. Haven't seen choline citrate since a long time.
And as surprising as it seems - with my experience limiting choline intake to 300-500 mg without enough inositol - it actually was used in an very old study, as 12 g daily for up to 3 years: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0002870350901323?via=ihub
are you saying the two should be taken together? i started taking inositol (1g per day) about a month ago because i read it helps with sleep (which it did).