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completely bedridden, extreme noise sensitive, room isolation from noise

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My sister is completely bedridden and has recently been very sensitive to outside or inside noises. Despite the ANC ear protection.

We are considering isolating the room from noise. We would have the option to move her to another room for this time.

Can anyone recommend a noise isolation technique? As quiet as possible.
 
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Mass loaded vinyl is quite effective. But this is an engineering challenge. Windows tend to be the biggest problems with sound infiltration, unless they're double-glazed.

What is the main source of sound bothering her?
Thanks for the tip, there is no single main source. Sometimes a car honks, sometimes a child shouted loudly outside, or my parents have a mishap at home. This often leads to a crash.
 
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We replaced the window frames incl triple glass, put up blinds and put rockwool inside one of the frames
If you want isolation look up the 2 different kind of noises, impact sound and through the air

Be careful if possible, I think to much isolation can have a backward effect
as in you tend to be able to stand less and less sound
 

Rufous McKinney

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I think to much isolation can have a backward effect
as in you tend to be able to stand less and less sound

I agree that can happen. Sudden noises are a problem of me Do Please give me a warning!

but can you hang some thick quilts on the walls

I was thinking something like old wool blankets...if they are clean. (do not want old moldiness)

Wool at least will someday decay, and return to the earth.
 

lenora

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I checked with my husband (Mr. Do It Yourself...very knowledgeable) and he suggested denim bats for noise insultation. These do not contain fiberglass insulation, so allergies shouldn't be a problem. He thinks that places like Home Depot sell them, but doesn't know if pre-washed denim is used. At least it's natural.

I hope this helps in your decision. Yours, Lenora
 

lenora

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Rod also suggested the cardboard egg crates (about 24" square) can be nailed on the wall. In addition, he advised that you go on Amazon or Home Depot and look at the different types of noise control....some aren't as ugly. Yours, Lenora
 

Zebra

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Hi, @Alex113

It's generous of you to help your sister in this way.

It just so happens that I was looking into such options for myself over the past few days.

The most economical, and easy to install, options I've found thus far are at this website.

https://www.audimute.com/

I'm starting out with door sealing kit, then I'm going to ask my landlord about the Isole sound barrier sheets over a shared door..

Hope this is helpful to you!
 

xebex

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I’d be concerned about chemical sensitivities when fitting noise filtering stuff. Especially using new products. Maybe some old mattresses stacked up against the wall would help?

I find that my ACN headphones are not enough so I play brown noise into them quietly too. There a lots of different tones it basically just makes the ACN a little louder but it is supposed to have calming qualities it does help for me.
 

CSMLSM

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I cannot suggest anything in the way of noise isolation techniques. However I can suggest CBD, it is how I made myself less sensitive to noise.
 

Judee

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@vision blue and I were talking about noise cancellation and she made me remember these. They are for insulation. My house gets so cold that I was going to see if I could have my basement done with these (and then I know code requires drywall).

Still I wonder if they wouldn't help with noise insulation as well. I don't think the styrofoam would be as much of an offgassing product either. :) ??

https://www.insofast.com/

https://www.menards.com/main/buildi...80-c-5779.htm?tid=-1271573537571872321&ipos=1

Here's one of their YT videos on their product:

Edit: Though maybe noise would still pass through those "raceway" channels in the panel???

Edit #2: Before anyone would buy them though, I recommend calling the company to see if they know if they would work for noise insulation as well.
 
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vision blue

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I cannot suggest anything in the way of noise isolation techniques. However I can suggest CBD, it is how I made myself less sensitive to noise.

CBD makes me sick. Oddly, does Some of same thing To me as low frequency nouse- heart arrhythmia . Altho perhaps the point is with CBD i wont care evennif i have the heart symptons...
 

vision blue

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I have not seen this thread before i am super sebsitive to low freq noise and its getting me very bad. Has even landed me in ER in the past and concerned nay do it again
 

vision blue

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@Judee recently read something that made me think sometimes cold and sound insulation go in opposite directions. So it said that hollow core doors, which is what most oeople have, is better for blocking out cold than solid doors but that it is the reverse for blocking sound.
Appreciate the effort though. Ive got to get out of this mess.!
 

vision blue

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I fel like i am in a similar pisition so watching this thread with great interest. In particularlyhave to avoid low frequency noise alot of which is impact noise , as @Sizzle discussed. , from shared walls and some from heating or plumbing. Low frequency noise is very hard to block.

the neighbors tv travels thru ceilings and walls And by tine it enters here its all low frequency and he seens to always up the bass on his tv. Its not that its echoing around indont think but is true sonehow manages to get into every single room
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. ive read that building a room within a room may bE one of best ways to block low freq noise. Also shoujd to be suspended If possible and with drop ceiling. Even if i hired soneone tho not sure can be done here

also read about putting Thick moving blankets on wall. Reviews on amazon tend to say they reek , so woukd create new issue

an an anology ive seen is when soundproofing to thinknof it lije blocking water- if there are any holes it will get in that way.

im looking for someone who cwn overse this all if anyone knows places- someone who wil consult with sound engineer then suggest non toxic things...then do the work I cant even hammer a nail.

i bought bass traps but i dont find them to do much good

noise cancelling head phones give me “ear suck”. If your sister tokerates them its a great option but not for unexpected noise

one other thing your sister might do well with is to put a matress in a walk in closet. I do that. Right now not Helping enough because there are nEw Active neighbors On other side but worked greet for a couple of years - and being both very close to ground in an enclosed space and have a door within reach while laying down to open or close the perfect anount had positive benefits on my other symptoms too. Also theres no windows and its a controllable space.

has she ever tried gabapentin?

thanks @Zebra fo Posting that info cwil chrck out link. Its awesome you got them to agree in a rental.

so hard to find a good handyman too
 

hapl808

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noise cancelling head phones give me “ear suck”. If your sister tokerates them its a great option but not for unexpected noise

I just purchased the Airpods Pro 2 and am waiting for them to be delivered. Supposedly the new vent design makes that pressure feeling better, but I'm not sure. I'm also noise sensitive, but also sensitive to the pressure feeling from various ANC. I can usually only tolerate them for an hour at most.

I'm tempted to also buy the Bose 700 and return the one (or both) that isn't satisfactory. Not sure if in-ear or over-ear will be better for my specific needs.
 

lenora

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@vision blue....this is probably not a great question, but I'll go ahead anyway. Would plain purple foam earplugs help at all? (They take a lot of getting used to.) I have problems with sleep and know that without them, I wouldn't get any....any sound from anywhere can alert me and that's it for the night. Your problem goes way beyond that, though, and it was just a thought.

I have severe anxiety and sound can make it worse....tip it into panic disorder. As I've become older, sound has changed considerably. Call it old age.

In my younger years I listened to tapes and then CD's to help block different sounds. I can tolerate TV, but now find that I need it louder whereas before lower sound could help. Have you seen an ENT specialist? You may receive some helpful tips from doing so....I'm only trying to help here as I know how sound can feel with anxiety.

Yes, the Bose 700 may help but there may be cheaper fixes. Yours, Lenora
 
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For who's interested.

My daughter tried multiple headphones for her hyperacusis.
The ones that stayed where the Sony WH-XB910 and the Sony WH-1000XM3
she looked for good noise canceling, which the Sony's have

Problem, with hyperacusis is that when you lay down with your headphones the plastic and the crackling noises from the plastic can annoy you
Strangely the Sony made from the same material as the others did less so
And they have good NC
 
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