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I need to work on pinning down these dates at Tahoe better.

Winter is NOT when lakes typically produce algae blooms. It's a Spring Fall Phenomenon associated with thermoclines.
Here is why I was comfirming the date.
Here is something interesting
I thought about a few things that those places could have in common
I have checked at least the top eight and through searching Ai produced the same results with the year the outbreaks appeared.
All had documented meteror showers
Per Ai response.
You can search it too
And see what you find out
I would be interested in the results you get.
Thanks

AI Summary

Yes, Nevada experienced a meteor shower in 1985. The most notable event was the Perseid meteor shower, which peaked in mid-August that year.
Meteor Shower Details
  • Perseid Meteor Shower: This annual event is known for its bright meteors and occurs every August.
  • Visibility: In 1985, conditions were favorable for viewing, with clear skies reported in many areas of Nevada.
Other Events
  • Other Meteor Showers: While the Perseids were the highlight, other meteor showers like the Geminids also occurred in December, but they are less prominent than the Perseids.
Historical Context
  • Meteor Activity: The 1985 Perseids were part of a generally active period for meteor showers, with many observers noting a higher-than-average number of visible meteors.
For more detailed accounts, local astronomy clubs or historical records from that time may provide additional insights.
 

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Here is why I was comfirming the date.
Here is something interesting
I thought about a few things that those places could have in common
I have checked at least the top eight and through searching Ai produced the same results with the year the outbreaks appeared.
All had documented meteror showers
Per Ai response.
You can search it too
And see what you find out
I would be interested in the results you get.
Thanks

AI Summary

Yes, Nevada experienced a meteor shower in 1985. The most notable event was the Perseid meteor shower, which peaked in mid-August that year.
Meteor Shower Details
  • Perseid Meteor Shower: This annual event is known for its bright meteors and occurs every August.
  • Visibility: In 1985, conditions were favorable for viewing, with clear skies reported in many areas of Nevada.
Other Events
  • Other Meteor Showers: While the Perseids were the highlight, other meteor showers like the Geminids also occurred in December, but they are less prominent than the Perseids.
Historical Context
  • Meteor Activity: The 1985 Perseids were part of a generally active period for meteor showers, with many observers noting a higher-than-average number of visible meteors.
For more detailed accounts, local astronomy clubs or historical records from that time may provide additional insights.
Nothing I did was scientific here
I just started at the top of the list
And done a search and copy and pasted.
I did not Cherry pick anything or any different illnesses.
I did delete some parts from the Ai reports like news paper reporting and the yada yada yada!
I did try to find the exact month and dates of the outbreaks and then any meteror showers around the year and dates.
This is as far as I have got recording them.
Meterors and outbreaks Dates


The 1934 Los Angeles County

General Hospital epidemic is the

first known recorded cluster outbreak resulting in what is now known as myalgic encephalomyelitis.

Date of cluster outbreak

Between May 1934 and December 15, 1935,

AI Overview

Yes, there was a meteor shower observed in California in 1934, specifically the Perseid meteor shower in August.

  • A fine display of the Perseids was observed by groups from the Frank P. Brackett Observatory of Pomona College in Claremont, California.
  • One group was at the observatory in Claremont, and another was located on Table Mountain, about 20 miles north of the observatory.
  • The peak of the shower occurred on the morning of August 12, with a single observer potentially counting around 400 meteors during the night, many of them being quite brilliant.
  • The Leonid meteor shower was also observed in 1934, including in Southern California. However, the Leonid shower in 1934 was considered to be "miserably disappointing" compared to previous showings.


AI Overview
Yes, there was a meteor shower in May of 1934 that would have been visible in California, the Eta Aquariids.

Based on modern astronomical understanding, the Eta Aquariid meteor shower is an annual event that occurs as Earth passes through debris left by Halley's Comet. The shower's radiant (the point in the sky from which the meteors appear to originate) is in the constellation Aquarius. The Eta Aquariids are typically best viewed in the pre-dawn hours, especially from the Southern Hemisphere. However, the shower is still visible from Northern latitudes, although the radiant is lower in the sky.

Historical observations confirm the occurrence of meteor showers, including those associated with Halley's Comet, throughout the years. While specific records of Eta Aquariid activity in California during May 1934 might be limited or difficult to locate, the shower is a regular occurrence, making it likely that some level of activity would have been observable in California during that period.

A potential source for further information on meteor shower observations in California during May 1934 is Pomona College's Frank P. Brackett Observatory. Researchers at this observatory actively observed and photographed meteors in 1934, particularly during the Perseid shower in August.



1936 Fond-du-Lac outbreak

An early recorded outbreak of ME was in Fond-du-Lac, Wisconsin, US. Recorded by the US Public Health Service,[1] the outbreak struck Saint Agnes Convent and was recorded as "encephalitis".[2][3]Fifty-three young women were infected, all novices and convent candidates[4]

AI Overview

Yes, it's highly likely that a meteor shower was visible in Wisconsin in 1936.

The Perseid meteor shower is an annual event that peaks in August, and records show excellent observing conditions were experienced during the Perseid maximum in 1936, particularly in Ontario and Quebec. While these specific observations weren't made in Wisconsin, the shower is widely visible from the Northern Hemisphere, according to Utah Desert Remote Observatories. A New York Times article from August 7, 1936 even mentions that the "Perseid Meteors Visible Tuesday".

Additionally, the Orionid meteor shower also occurred in October of 1936.

Therefore, given the annual nature of these showers and the available records, it's reasonable to conclude that residents of Wisconsin would have had the opportunity to observe at least one meteor shower during 1936.



1937 Erstfeld outbreak

In July 1937, 130 of 930 soldiers stationed in the small town of Erstfeld, Switzerland became ill with what the time was thought to be "Abortive poliomyelitis."[1]

Four days after training commenced the troops were all wet through on a field exercise. Two days later, a case of poliomyelitis occurred among them, this case was at once diagnosed and removed to hospital. This was followed within twelve days by six cases with meningeal and myelitic symptoms, 16 purely meningeal cases and 108 with symptoms involving inflammation of the upper respiratory tract. The incubation period was 4-7 days.[2]

Date of outbreak - July 1937

AI Overview
The Perseid meteor shower is active between July 17th and August 24th annually, with the peak around August 12-13th. While this shower would have been active in July 1937, whether it was observed specifically in Switzerland in that year is not explicitly mentioned in the search results provided. However, the Perseids are generally visible from the Northern Hemisphere and are known for producing a large number of bright meteors.

Separately, a significant meteor shower of Scorpionids was observed on June 21, 1937, which is outside of July.

AI Overview

Yes, there was an unexpected and abundant meteor shower on June 21, 1937, caused by the Scorpionids.

While the search results don't explicitly mention if this shower was visible in Switzerland, it's reasonable to infer that a globally observed phenomenon of this nature would have been visible from various locations, including Switzerland, assuming suitable viewing conditions and local time of night. The event was described by I. S. Astapovich (1940).

This particular shower was caused by the Scorpionids, a component of the ecliptic complex meteoroid Ophiuchi-Scorpionid stream. The phenomenon suggested the existence of considerable local concentrations within the stream, capable of producing abundant meteor showers when encountered by Earth under favorable conditions.



1937 St. Gallen outbreak

In September, 1937, there was a small outbreak in the women's section of the cantonal hospital for St Gallen at Frohburg, St Gallen, Switzerland.[1] This outbreak was less than three months after the 1937 Erstfeld outbreak, about 200 km or 125 miles away.

Symptoms



Marked fatiguability[1]
The frequency of symptoms in the St Gallen outbreak were as follows: 35% had systemic symptoms, 47% had meningeal involvement, and 18% develop encephalomyelitiswith paresis.[1]



Since it was in Switzerland see above meteror shower



1939 Middlesex outbreak

In 1939, the Harefield Sanatorium in Middlesex, England experienced an outbreak. At the time, doctors recorded "persitent myalgia following sore throat"[1] that infected 7 hospital staff[2].

AI Overview

Yes, it appears there were notable meteor showers visible from England in 1939.

  • Perseids: Observations of the Perseid meteor shower were carried out in 1939. While the summary of these observations focuses on Canada, the Perseids are a major annual meteor shower visible globally, including from England. In fact, England and western Europe were considered to be well-placed for viewing the peak of the shower in a darkened sky that year.
  • Giacobinids: There was anticipation of a possible recurrence of the Giacobinid meteor shower on October 9th or 10th in 1939. The source suggests that this potential shower, though of unpredictable intensity, might have been visible from England given its general location within Europe.
  • Other possible showers: While not specifically confirmed for England, other meteor-related events occurred in 1939 that might have had some visibility in the region:
    • A detonating daylight fireball was observed on July 20, 1939.
    • Bright meteors were observed near Bologna, Italy in July and August 1939.
 

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Hi
When my symptons started I might have them for a few months then be fine up to six months , over a span of
Two years.
Then it turned into constant fatigue without any good days to the present date.

I have the burning hot feeling from head to toes 24/7 now.
I can walk in the snow wearing a Tshirt , shorts and flip flops without any relief and I dont limit my exposure to prevent frostbite and hypertherma.

I never measure any temperature above 98.6 , my thyroids have been tested multiple times and they are fine.

My white blood cells are always normal.

Everyone that reads what I tried yesterday will have a huge laugh!
Be prepared !

So yesterday I made myself a thick tinfoil hat with the shiny side facing out, it covered my head from my eyebrows down to the base of my skull, the only thing was not covered was my eyes, nose and mouth.
My wife walked into the room and asked me Do you need me to take you somwhere ! Ha Ha Ha!

After wearing the hat for 10 minutes my heart rate increased and I had a tingling sensation in both hands.
Both things went back to normal 5 minutes latter after I removed the hat.
Yeah I am desperate to feel better.

So did you have a big laugh ?

Same thing in my case, I never have a fever when it's going on. Nothing up with my thyroid either. Over the years the only abnormality they've ever been able to find is I'll often somewhat elevated liver enzymes and protein in urine but that's been going on my whole life so I must have some undiagnosed genetic condition there. I think the only thing that would help us is if we were able to get readings instantly in real time but that's just scientifically impossible at the moment. If I could specifically find out what my body is doing when specifically this or that is flaring and map it out since I can have windows I might have a good chance at controlling it but the only thing I have to go off of is the vague circadian factors to how they fluctuate and everything I ate/did in the past few days up to that point. Then you try mixing things up with supplements, diet, and lifestyle trying to see if you can get anything solid out of it. Endless game of guess, theorize, and check.

Oh goodness I have actually tried that out of curiosity, do not do that if you have actual EMF sensitivity like me because it will make you much worse. That Same thing will happen, it'll even happen with the anti-EMF hats which may reduce some of the load up front but ultimately do the same thing after a short time. If I put my hand into one of the anti-EMF fabric meshes it will get all twitchy. I only wear one of the anti-EMF baseball caps if I have to actually go into the cell phone store where I'm generally not in there for anymore than 15 minutes tops. Every time I go in there my brain is a mess for the rest of the day, don't know what they got running in those AT&T stores but it's unholy. I have only ever been in a couple public places that were worse.

In a good way, EHS is real. Tin foil hat is not enough, you would have to be covered entirely like in a Faraday cage, any place that is uncovered will spill the radiation inside. If you aren't covered entirely, it will work like antenna and make things worse. I remember some science guys tested it with proper equipment, that video should be somewhere online. There are people who have their whole houses shielded, single rooms or beds. Some houses have a lot of dirty electricity, LED bulbs can also be dirty. I'd start with this first because that can be a serious issue, also any other electrical device.

I also react to high concentrations of dirty electricity, I found that out before when I had people working in my unit with lots of wires laying around my area and what happened when I had to unplug the ethernet cable which is extremely long and drag it all into my room temporarily. I can also confirm that you need complete blocking for it to be effective or at least a very high dampening of the signal load to make any difference. I need 3 layers of the best shielding fabric for example on my PC tower to really make a difference BUT when the CPU ramps up too much or the hard drive I still really feel the burn after a while.
 

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Same thing in my case, I never have a fever when it's going on. Nothing up with my thyroid either. Over the years the only abnormality they've ever been able to find is I'll often somewhat elevated liver enzymes and protein in urine but that's been going on my whole life so I must have some undiagnosed genetic condition there. I think the only thing that would help us is if we were able to get readings instantly in real time but that's just scientifically impossible at the moment. If I could specifically find out what my body is doing when specifically this or that is flaring and map it out since I can have windows I might have a good chance at controlling it but the only thing I have to go off of is the vague circadian factors to how they fluctuate and everything I ate/did in the past few days up to that point. Then you try mixing things up with supplements, diet, and lifestyle trying to see if you can get anything solid out of it. Endless game of guess, theorize, and check.

Oh goodness I have actually tried that out of curiosity, do not do that if you have actual EMF sensitivity like me because it will make you much worse. That Same thing will happen, it'll even happen with the anti-EMF hats which may reduce some of the load up front but ultimately do the same thing after a short time. If I put my hand into one of the anti-EMF fabric meshes it will get all twitchy. I only wear one of the anti-EMF baseball caps if I have to actually go into the cell phone store where I'm generally not in there for anymore than 15 minutes tops. Every time I go in there my brain is a mess for the rest of the day, don't know what they got running in those AT&T stores but it's unholy. I have only ever been in a couple public places that were worse.



I also react to high concentrations of dirty electricity, I found that out before when I had people working in my unit with lots of wires laying around my area and what happened when I had to unplug the ethernet cable which is extremely long and drag it all into my room temporarily. I can also confirm that you need complete blocking for it to be effective or at least a very high dampening of the signal load to make any difference. I need 3 layers of the best shielding fabric for example on my PC tower to really make a difference BUT when the CPU ramps up too much or the hard drive I still really feel the burn after a while.
Hi
Even some of the best shielding we can aquire will not stop some electrical frequencies and sounds.
Different electrical frequencies Hertz
Creates different sound waves.

Different frequencies can evoke different emotional responses and perceptions in listeners.

When I use to design electrical equipment and wiring schematics
I always had to study wire insulation temperature ratings, most all insulations will leak voltage at different temperatures.

And all low voltage wiring have a continous shielded internal metal foil
And sometimes also a metal sheath then the rubber or other type insulation on the outside to prevent interference and cross talk between Different frequencies .

Maybe it is the Different frequencies producing a sound that may be causing our symptons?
 

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Hi
Even some of the best shielding we can aquire will not stop some electrical frequencies and sounds.
Different electrical frequencies Hertz
Creates different sound waves.

Different frequencies can evoke different emotional responses and perceptions in listeners.

When I use to design electrical equipment and wiring schematics
I always had to study wire insulation temperature ratings, most all insulations will leak voltage at different temperatures.

And all low voltage wiring have a continous shielded internal metal foil
And sometimes also a metal sheath then the rubber or other type insulation on the outside to prevent interference and cross talk between Different frequencies .

Maybe it is the Different frequencies producing a sound that may be causing our symptons?

I do react to sound but I don't know how besides vibrating frequencies lead to my brain feeling all scrambled and my tinnitus going through the roof the quickest. As per usual the pressure in my brain is felt the most in the forehead area. Probably not specifically due to sound level because even normal music doesn't give me it like that and I listen to music every day at moderate volumes. If sound is involved in some secondary fashion its sound well below or above the hearing range.
 

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I do react to sound but I don't know how besides vibrating frequencies lead to my brain feeling all scrambled and my tinnitus going through the roof the quickest. As per usual the pressure in my brain is felt the most in the forehead area. Probably not specifically due to sound level because even normal music doesn't give me it like that and I listen to music every day at moderate volumes. If sound is involved in some secondary fashion its sound well below or above the hearing range.
Hi

I have had tinnitus in both ears for quite some, it is a severe ringing.
I have always used hearing protection
But I did get it any way.

I bought some cheap hearing aides online and when I put in one of them the ringing stops in both ears.
I dont know why that happens.
If I wear the audio headphones to listen to tv or music, I dont hear the ringing regardless of the volume settings.

Are you always thinking and examining stuff in your mind constantly?
I do! My mind is always working on theories and projects.

When they tried reseting my brain with the Tms procedure I couldnt sleep for a week , and I was not sleepy.
It did give me the heavy head feeling like any moment my was head was going to flop over to one side.

Then when I had a brain Mri
I had the same heavy head and also a constant low headache for at least one month.

Both things operated on Magnetic resonance. And where focused on my brain.
 

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I bought some cheap hearing aides online and when I put in one of them the ringing stops in both ears.
I dont know why that happens.
If I wear the audio headphones to listen to tv or music, I dont hear the ringing regardless of the volume settings.
That has caught my attention.
Interesting!
Wonder if there is something about application of pressure from those items?
🤔

I've had tinnitus since at least 5th grade back in mid 1970s.
Low volume and on-again, off-again.
Has increased in both volume and duration since acquiring ME/CFS

There is a little bit of inherited hearing loss in Dad's side of the family.
He has military connected hearing loss and tinnitus.

I definitely wasn't in the military in 5th grade.
Also wasn't going to music concerts.
So it's anybody's guess what's going on with me.

And among those goings on to guess about,
Tinnitus going on right now and as it sometimes does, it just changed tones and volume.
And it just changed again in the right ear to a different set of tones from before.
Now right ear has quit.
Left ear still happily whistling/ ringing/ screeching, pick your favorite word.

I dunno.
Nobody knows.
And I've not got the income to cover multiple hundreds of dollars of Medicare copays which would come from digging in to it with a bunch of tests and appointments.
 

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That has caught my attention.
Interesting!
Wonder if there is something about application of pressure from those items?
🤔

I've had tinnitus since at least 5th grade back in mid 1970s.
Low volume and on-again, off-again.
Has increased in both volume and duration since acquiring ME/CFS

There is a little bit of inherited hearing loss in Dad's side of the family.
He has military connected hearing loss and tinnitus.

I definitely wasn't in the military in 5th grade.
Also wasn't going to music concerts.
So it's anybody's guess what's going on with me.

And among those goings on to guess about,
Tinnitus going on right now and as it sometimes does, it just changed tones and volume.
And it just changed again in the right ear to a different set of tones from before.
Now right ear has quit.
Left ear still happily whistling/ ringing/ screeching, pick your favorite word.

I dunno.
Nobody knows.
And I've not got the income to cover multiple hundreds of dollars of Medicare copays which would come from digging in to it with a bunch of tests and appointments.
There is a little bit of inherited hearing loss in Dad's side of the family.
He has military connected hearing loss

I dont think i have inherited hearing loss , my father did not have
Tinnitus. He also fired Artillery
Shells from a jeep mounted cannon
And he worked at a metal stamping plant.

I went to a hearing Dr consultation and I have some hearing loss but I think that was due to the loud ringing
In my ears and I couldn't hear the sounds lol!

I can stick my fingers in both ears and cover them with my palms and still hear it at the same volume.

I bought the cheapest rechargeable hearing aids I could find , probable less than $50.

And the cheapest headphones.
I think it has to do with the frequency they generate and that cancels out the ringing frequency.

It may not work for everyone.
Do you know anyone you can borrow a hearing aid from for a few minutes?
 

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There is a little bit of inherited hearing loss in Dad's side of the family.
He has military connected hearing loss

I dont think i have inherited hearing loss , my father did not have
Tinnitus. He also fired Artillery
Shells from a jeep mounted cannon
And he worked at a metal stamping plant.

I went to a hearing Dr consultation and I have some hearing loss but I think that was due to the loud ringing
In my ears and I couldn't hear the sounds lol!

I can stick my fingers in both ears and cover them with my palms and still hear it at the same volume.

I bought the cheapest rechargeable hearing aids I could find , probable less than $50.

And the cheapest headphones.
I think it has to do with the frequency they generate and that cancels out the ringing frequency.

It may not work for everyone.
Do you know anyone you can borrow a hearing aid from for a few minutes?
I bought the small ones that goes into you ear like the small foam ear plugs
The ones I bought had a plastic like string to remove them.
It was not the kind that goes in your ear and the other part wraps around outside your ear
 

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Dad uses hearing aids but he lives 100 miles away & that's further than I can drive any more.
And given that my immune system is a bit iffy, I wouldn't want to do that anyway.
I understand.
My immune system is also iffy

You were posting while i was typing so i will just post it here also

I bought the small ones that goes into you ear like the small foam ear plugs
The ones I bought had a plastic like string to remove them.
It was not the kind that goes in your ear and the other part wraps around outside your ear
 

Dysfunkion

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Hi

I have had tinnitus in both ears for quite some, it is a severe ringing.
I have always used hearing protection
But I did get it any way.

I bought some cheap hearing aides online and when I put in one of them the ringing stops in both ears.
I dont know why that happens.
If I wear the audio headphones to listen to tv or music, I dont hear the ringing regardless of the volume settings.

Are you always thinking and examining stuff in your mind constantly?
I do! My mind is always working on theories and projects.

When they tried reseting my brain with the Tms procedure I couldnt sleep for a week , and I was not sleepy.
It did give me the heavy head feeling like any moment my was head was going to flop over to one side.

Then when I had a brain Mri
I had the same heavy head and also a constant low headache for at least one month.

Both things operated on Magnetic resonance. And where focused on my brain.

Interesting, what specific model of hearing aides? I don't have any actual hearing issues but I'd be willing to see what they do to me.

And yes constantly, it's my worst PEM trigger and it's ongoing now as I had to type up a lengthy thing on my blog here. I get very over stimulated very easily, I hate having a more constantly going mind and extroverted style personality but having this contradicting it. I'm not surprised TMS would do that to you, I respond in a similar way to going over my limit with red light therapy. That reaction now since the food reaction I mentioned in my blog post is more generally stimulating indicating some huge factor in a messed up feedback loop possibly between my guts, immune system, vascular system, and how my body is using energy.

I would never get an MRI, it's just too dangerous for me. I've heard of even people without EHS getting reactions and I just know I'd get injured badly. I really wish EHS was accepted as a serious disability but from lack of solid biomarkers as to what happens with us and anyone taking us seriously I doubt we'll see treatments any time soon. An interesting thing about that is even though I had a bad reaction I mentioned in my blog post to something that lead to widespread changes in how my general issues are presenting it didn't effect my EMF sensitivity level. So whatever the EMF sensitivity is seems to be a completely separate trigger and it's not something being generated from gut reactions but will involve digestive problems though I'm sure if you put me in a room with a wifi router on next to me the lines would get blurred after a certain symptomatic threshold.
 

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Hi

I bought the small ones that goes into you ears like the small foam ear plugs
The ones I bought had a plastic like string to remove them.
It was not the kind that goes in your ear and the other part wraps around outside your ear.

I bought the cheapest ones with a rechargeable battery I could find online.
 

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Interesting, what specific model of hearing aides? I don't have any actual hearing issues but I'd be willing to see what they do to me.

And yes constantly, it's my worst PEM trigger and it's ongoing now as I had to type up a lengthy thing on my blog here. I get very over stimulated very easily, I hate having a more constantly going mind and extroverted style personality but having this contradicting it. I'm not surprised TMS would do that to you, I respond in a similar way to going over my limit with red light therapy. That reaction now since the food reaction I mentioned in my blog post is more generally stimulating indicating some huge factor in a messed up feedback loop possibly between my guts, immune system, vascular system, and how my body is using energy.

I would never get an MRI, it's just too dangerous for me. I've heard of even people without EHS getting reactions and I just know I'd get injured badly. I really wish EHS was accepted as a serious disability but from lack of solid biomarkers as to what happens with us and anyone taking us seriously I doubt we'll see treatments any time soon. An interesting thing about that is even though I had a bad reaction I mentioned in my blog post to something that lead to widespread changes in how my general issues are presenting it didn't effect my EMF sensitivity level. So whatever the EMF sensitivity is seems to be a completely separate trigger and it's not something being generated from gut reactions but will involve digestive problems though I'm sure if you put me in a room with a wifi router on next to me the lines would get blurred after a certain symptomatic threshold.
Hi
I had the mri to rule out a brain tumor
I did not do the contrast because A year or so ago I became allergic to iodine.

I will be taking at least a week off from researching and replying to my threads

Since finding this forum and arranging up my history and symptons and meds and doing a lot of searches.
And concentrating on grammer and typing a coherent sentence.
I have started back to my earlist sympton. I cant get woke up and I want to sleep all the time again.

I want to see if the sympton goes away again.
 

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What is a historic stomach ache ?
Am I misreading that ? Or pronouncing it wrong?
I got into the geneology thing. One can disappear, into that rabbit hole. It's all pretty fascinating. Especially if your into history. Then you can read historic novels and pretend to make more sense out of them, because some relative or another, is making mischief there.

So King Alfred is in the British LINE 1. Alot is known about him, although much of it may be embellished, or stories etc. He supposedly had constant stomach problems and due to religious observance, he would only eat apples milk and oats. Some have indicated he likely had Crohn's. I don't have that, but I do deal with lots of intestinal challenge.

I really enjoyed watching The Last Kingdom (those books are fabulous) because King Alfred is a featured player in that drama.
 

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I got into the geneology thing. One can disappear, into that rabbit hole. It's all pretty fascinating. Especially if your into history. Then you can read historic novels and pretend to make more sense out of them, because some relative or another, is making mischief there.

So King Alfred is in the British LINE 1. Alot is known about him, although much of it may be embellished, or stories etc. He supposedly had constant stomach problems and due to religious observance, he would only eat apples milk and oats. Some have indicated he likely had Crohn's. I don't have that, but I do deal with lots of intestinal challenge.

I really enjoyed watching The Last Kingdom (those books are fabulous) because King Alfred is a featured player in that drama.
That's Awesome!

We had pretty good records starting back in the late 1800's and early 1900's .
The biggest problem for us was the different spelling changes of our last name. And it was easier to search the male side.
The female side is impossible to trace !
And yes you can go as deep as you want to down the rabbits hole on the internet.

The stomach issue makes sense.
I thought I was speeling something wrong because I could not find a King with that name
 

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The biggest problem for us was the different spelling changes of our last name. And it was easier to search the male side.
It really helped that I used a First Cousin whose mother was a professional Genealogist. My mother told me "a cousin had figured this out".... but it took me another fifty years to pin her down. So I joined DAR using her application, which makes it far easier. You have to prove descent from the Revolutionary War. Which is recent history in my opinion. OF course the only actual Cousin I ever found, refused to speak to me.

Many people do not want any contact with families.

Somebody gifted me the DNA test so I went ahead and did it, otherwise I doubt I would have.
the different spelling changes of our last name
My mistake was looking for Irish people, when my red haired grandmother was not Irish at all.

was the different spelling changes of our last name
You have to literally go to the town and find the museum and the filing cabinets. I was not able to do that, although I was planning on it.

I am mad I can't do the historical Road trip I'd planned to visit all these places. Darn ME
 

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It really helped that I used a First Cousin whose mother was a professional Genealogist. My mother told me "a cousin had figured this out".... but it took me another fifty years to pin her down. So I joined DAR using her application, which makes it far easier. You have to prove descent from the Revolutionary War. Which is recent history in my opinion. OF course the only actual Cousin I ever found, refused to speak to me.

Many people do not want any contact with families.

Somebody gifted me the DNA test so I went ahead and did it, otherwise I doubt I would have.

My mistake was looking for Irish people, when my red haired grandmother was not Irish at all.


You have to literally go to the town and find the museum and the filing cabinets. I was not able to do that, although I was planning on it.

I am mad I can't do the historical Road trip I'd planned to visit all these places. Darn ME
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I can relate to family members not wanting any contact.
On my mothers side three out of the five just disappered and did not contact anyone untill they were very old and then they moved back to thier home town and lived in a nursing until they passed one by one and were burried on the family plot.

Me and my siblings seperated as well for over 25 years, No contact then one day I decided to track them down.

What a bunch of excuses I heard from them!!! But I bit my tongue and that is not normal for me to do lol!
But we did arrange a reunion and the wife and I flew to where they lived and we had a Great time !!
And we are in touch on a normal basis.
I think the seperation of all our family had to be genetics related.

My Dna results

England &

Northwestern Europe 66%

Scotland 17%

Ireland 11%

Germanic Europe 3%

Netherlands 3%
 
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