Violeta
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I have read stuff that indicates that carnivore can make someone run low on Vitamin C, which might be why you get a sore throat. I can try to put the reasoning together for you if you are interested.
This will cause major nutrient deficiencies.The baseline of Carnivore is just beef and salt
Sounds like you have scurvy.After a year on carnivore, I began to have nosebleeds, sensitive gums and sinuses, along with dizziness, etc.
Sounds like you have scurvy.
Based on my experience with a keto pescatarian diet from 2018-2021: when keto starts to fail it's because you're no longer in ketosis. I found it hard to restrict carbs enough to stay in ketosis and I found hunger prevents you from getting back into ketosis. The trick I learned to get back into ketosis, was to make the next 2 meals zero carb (eg. fish). I used a cheap alcohol breath tester to check - the sensor in the cheap ones also responds to acetone (mistaking it for alcohol) so you get reading, any non-zero value means your ketogenic (if you've not consumed alcohol).I've been on keto diet for some time and it also strongly improved my digestion, later some benefits started to go away,
I disagree. Beef is concentrated nutrients (vitamins and minerals) from an animal on a plant based diet.This will cause major nutrient deficiencies.
Based on my experience with a keto pescatarian diet from 2018-2021: when keto starts to fail it's because you're no longer in ketosis. I found it hard to restrict carbs enough to stay in ketosis and I found hunger prevents you from getting back into ketosis. The trick I learned to get back into ketosis, was to make the next 2 meals zero carb (eg. fish). I used a cheap alcohol breath tester to check - the sensor in the cheap ones also responds to acetone (mistaking it for alcohol) so you get reading, any non-zero value means your ketogenic (if you've not consumed alcohol).
This is not how it works, i don't advocate for a vegan diet because it often has nutrient deficiencies, just like only eating beef has nutrient deficiencies.Based on my experience with a keto pescatarian diet from 2018-2021: when keto starts to fail it's because you're no longer in ketosis. I found it hard to restrict carbs enough to stay in ketosis and I found hunger prevents you from getting back into ketosis. The trick I learned to get back into ketosis, was to make the next 2 meals zero carb (eg. fish). I used a cheap alcohol breath tester to check - the sensor in the cheap ones also responds to acetone (mistaking it for alcohol) so you get reading, any non-zero value means your ketogenic (if you've not consumed alcohol).
I disagree. Beef is concentrated nutrients (vitamins and minerals) from an animal on a plant based diet.
Take for example calcium - there is no way we could acquire the recommended RDI from any source other than milk. Milk is perfectly designed for young animal to grow into an adult. It even stimulates hunger to accelerate this process. Why do many humans (unlike any other animal) never ween themselves off milk? When our bones have finished growing, why do we need calcium? - the RDI is wrong for adults. Even if we break a bone the body can recycle calcium and repair the bone break.
And all the nutrients in meat are in the active form our bodies require. Consider the fat soluble vitamins:
How do you obtain these nutrients in sufficient amounts on a low fat plant based diet?
- Vitamin A as retinol, retinal, retinoic acid - not beta-carotene from plants that needs to be converted.
- Vitamin D3 - not D2.
- Vitamin E as α-tocopherol - not γ-tocopherol and tocotrienols that predominate vegetable seed oils.
- Vitamin K2 - not K1.
- Omega 3 DHA and EPA - not ALA.
The US Dietary Guidelines are 80-85% based on Epidemiology (not science) and the rest is based on cherry picked scientific trials that align with their vegetarian ideology. The 20 dietary guidelines advisory committee members are predominantly vegetarians. Google each name and see for yourself.
Based on ideology and dogma they are trying to steer us away from our natural ancestral animal based diet and as a consequence destroying nature and our health. Only animals can restore our top soil and prevent climate change by returning carbon to the soil which improves drainage and water holding capacity, thereby reducing runoff and down stream flooding.
Sorry for going off topic at the end.
IncorrectBased on ideology and dogma they are trying to steer us away from our natural ancestral animal based diet
Since the origin of our species approximately 300,000 years ago, modern humans have spread throughout the whole world. The period approximately 115,000 to 11,700 years ago, colloquially called the “Ice Age,” included incredible climate instability. Any plant based food sources during this time would have been left as bait for attracting large animals. During the Ice Age the average weight of mammals went from 300kg down to 10kg as mega fauna were hunted to extinction around the globe. Coinciding with this period our brain size grew exponentially (out of necessity) as hunted animals got smaller and more difficult to catch. Evolution does not support a large brain expending 25% of our energy for no reason. Since the advent of agriculture 12,000 years ago our brain size has decreased from 1,500 cubic centimeters to 1,350 cc.
Plants use less energy than meat. It takes 2-10x as much solar energy to grow meat as it does plants.Since the origin of our species approximately 300,000 years ago, modern humans have spread throughout the whole world. The period approximately 115,000 to 11,700 years ago, colloquially called the “Ice Age,” included incredible climate instability. Any plant based food sources during this time would have been left as bait for attracting large animals. During the Ice Age the average weight of mammals went from 300kg down to 10kg as mega fauna were hunted to extinction around the globe. Coinciding with this period our brain size grew exponentially (out of necessity) as hunted animals got smaller and more difficult to catch. Evolution does not support a large brain expending 25% of our energy for no reason. Since the advent of agriculture 12,000 years ago our brain size has decreased from 1,500 cubic centimeters to 1,350 cc.
Thats great, but we thrive on factual information even when its complicated.This is a carnivore diet thread. A place where I do my best to help other carnivores.
Sounds good.Let's agree to disagree.
Take for example calcium - there is no way we could acquire the recommended RDI from any source other than milk. Milk is perfectly designed for young animal to grow into an adult. It even stimulates hunger to accelerate this process. Why do many humans (unlike any other animal) never ween themselves off milk? When our bones have finished growing, why do we need calcium? - the RDI is wrong for adults. Even if we break a bone the body can recycle calcium and repair the bone break.
Dr. Georgia Ede said:I know it's controversial but I'm convinced Dairy does not belong in the human diet beyond weening.
If it were true we needed milk beyond weening then we would be the only animal for whom that was true. And not just milk, but milk of a different species. It's ludicrous. So what milk is, is a species specific growth formula perfectly designed to turn a baby mammal into a larger mammal and then that mammal is supposed to graduate onto solid food. It's supposed to go and hunt and gather for itself, whatever that mammal is. So it doesn't make any sense that we would require milk beyond weening as no other animal requires milk beyond weening. We shouldn't be in growth mode for our entire lives and it's a powerful growth formula at that - it turns on the growth system in the mammal that's consuming it.
Post from locked thread said:But despite seeing these improvements, I am becoming aware of just how much time and effort it is going to take to ''Heal''