Carnivore diet reduces bloating
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You might be right, I haven't taken a vitamin C supplement for about a month. Thanks.
Vitamin C would reduce inflammation and help the gut to heal.
Vitamin C would reduce inflammation and help the gut to heal.
I've been on keto diet for some time and it also strongly improved my digestion, later some benefits started to go away, although digestion was still great. But I don't think that any restrictive diet like this is healthy for a long time. It can create deficiencies of magnesium, calcium, potassium, other minerals and vitamins.
It took a while to go back to a high carb diet for the microbiome to readjust again and I feel better now than on keto. For bloating it is a good idea to check allergen foods first. I would slowly introduce rice back, than other foods one by one and see how the body is reacting. It can take a while if someone was in ketosis long time, it took me about 6 months to fully readjust to carbs.
It took a while to go back to a high carb diet for the microbiome to readjust again and I feel better now than on keto. For bloating it is a good idea to check allergen foods first. I would slowly introduce rice back, than other foods one by one and see how the body is reacting. It can take a while if someone was in ketosis long time, it took me about 6 months to fully readjust to carbs.
Based on my experience with a keto pescatarian diet from 2018-2021: when keto starts to fail it's because you're no longer in ketosis. I found it hard to restrict carbs enough to stay in ketosis and I found hunger prevents you from getting back into ketosis. The trick I learned to get back into ketosis, was to make the next 2 meals zero carb (eg. fish). I used a cheap alcohol breath tester to check - the sensor in the cheap ones also responds to acetone (mistaking it for alcohol) so you get reading, any non-zero value means your ketogenic (if you've not consumed alcohol).
I disagree. Beef is concentrated nutrients (vitamins and minerals) from an animal on a plant based diet.
Take for example calcium - there is no way we could acquire the recommended RDI from any source other than milk. Milk is perfectly designed for young animal to grow into an adult. It even stimulates hunger to accelerate this process. Why do many humans (unlike any other animal) never ween themselves off milk? When our bones have finished growing, why do we need calcium? - the RDI is wrong for adults. Even if we break a bone the body can recycle calcium and repair the bone break.
And all the nutrients in meat are in the active form our bodies require. Consider the fat soluble vitamins:
The US Dietary Guidelines are 80-85% based on Epidemiology (not science) and the rest is based on cherry picked scientific trials that align with their vegetarian ideology. The 20 dietary guidelines advisory committee members are predominantly vegetarians. Google each name and see for yourself.
Based on ideology and dogma they are trying to steer us away from our natural ancestral animal based diet and as a consequence destroying nature and our health. Only animals can restore our top soil and prevent climate change by returning carbon to the soil which improves drainage and water holding capacity, thereby reducing runoff and down stream flooding.
Sorry for going off topic at the end.
I disagree. Beef is concentrated nutrients (vitamins and minerals) from an animal on a plant based diet.
Take for example calcium - there is no way we could acquire the recommended RDI from any source other than milk. Milk is perfectly designed for young animal to grow into an adult. It even stimulates hunger to accelerate this process. Why do many humans (unlike any other animal) never ween themselves off milk? When our bones have finished growing, why do we need calcium? - the RDI is wrong for adults. Even if we break a bone the body can recycle calcium and repair the bone break.
And all the nutrients in meat are in the active form our bodies require. Consider the fat soluble vitamins:
- Vitamin A as retinol, retinal, retinoic acid - not beta-carotene from plants that needs to be converted.
- Vitamin D3 - not D2.
- Vitamin E as α-tocopherol - not γ-tocopherol and tocotrienols that predominate vegetable seed oils.
- Vitamin K2 - not K1.
- Omega 3 DHA and EPA - not ALA.
The US Dietary Guidelines are 80-85% based on Epidemiology (not science) and the rest is based on cherry picked scientific trials that align with their vegetarian ideology. The 20 dietary guidelines advisory committee members are predominantly vegetarians. Google each name and see for yourself.
Based on ideology and dogma they are trying to steer us away from our natural ancestral animal based diet and as a consequence destroying nature and our health. Only animals can restore our top soil and prevent climate change by returning carbon to the soil which improves drainage and water holding capacity, thereby reducing runoff and down stream flooding.
Sorry for going off topic at the end.
I wish keto diet worked for me, it was so easy, super tasty and not a lot of cooking was needed! I never tried total zero carbs, seems too extreme for me. I've been in ketosis most of the time though, the diet just stopped working for me. Last year I tried going back to keto to test how I will react, but it made me feel very fatigued and that feeling didn't go away. I am now a happy carb eater, with a low to moderate amount of fat. Well, 'happy'.
This is not how it works, i don't advocate for a vegan diet because it often has nutrient deficiencies, just like only eating beef has nutrient deficiencies.
We need a diet with vegetables, protein and more.
That said i know some ME patients have found success with a keto diet because it might be bypassing whatever part of this disease process screws with our energy production. But that is a special case and i would still suggest more than just beef.
We need a diet with vegetables, protein and more.
That said i know some ME patients have found success with a keto diet because it might be bypassing whatever part of this disease process screws with our energy production. But that is a special case and i would still suggest more than just beef.
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The baseline of Carnivore is actually meat from ruminant animals and salt. For most 'Lion' dieters that's beef and lamb, but can include all domesticated and wild bovines, goats, giraffes, deer, gazelles, and antelopes.
Some have trouble with beef and do better on only lamb, likely because beef is aged for ~3 weeks to improve flavor before being sold. Fresh beef is almost impossible to get. Yeah, reintroducing eggs, fish and other meats is advisable as they have complimentary nutrient profiles.
Allergy to raw egg white is fairly common but removing or cooking the egg white until done is usually enough to prevent an upset stomach. Of course, if you get a more severe allergic reaction you'll need to avoid them entirely. Eggs would be the cheapest and best source of complete protein, vitamins and minerals.
Pork, lamb and high fat mince are also inexpensive options. Dairy is unsuitable for adults and many find cheese in particular triggers food cravings. Contrary to popular belief—meat, including red meat, is the safest, most nutritious, digestible, healthy food for the human body.
Some have trouble with beef and do better on only lamb, likely because beef is aged for ~3 weeks to improve flavor before being sold. Fresh beef is almost impossible to get. Yeah, reintroducing eggs, fish and other meats is advisable as they have complimentary nutrient profiles.
Allergy to raw egg white is fairly common but removing or cooking the egg white until done is usually enough to prevent an upset stomach. Of course, if you get a more severe allergic reaction you'll need to avoid them entirely. Eggs would be the cheapest and best source of complete protein, vitamins and minerals.
Pork, lamb and high fat mince are also inexpensive options. Dairy is unsuitable for adults and many find cheese in particular triggers food cravings. Contrary to popular belief—meat, including red meat, is the safest, most nutritious, digestible, healthy food for the human body.
You contradict yourself
Incorrect
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/
You are the one running on ideology here while accusing others of what you are doing.
And your reference website is highly ideological.
If you wish to believe in your ideology thats great but don't expect the rest of us to.
Incorrect
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/
You are the one running on ideology here while accusing others of what you are doing.
And your reference website is highly ideological.
If you wish to believe in your ideology thats great but don't expect the rest of us to.
No, that's incorrect - I also said the RDI for Calcium was wrong for adults.
Since the origin of our species approximately 300,000 years ago, modern humans have spread throughout the whole world. The period approximately 115,000 to 11,700 years ago, colloquially called the “Ice Age,” included incredible climate instability. Any plant based food sources during this time would have been left as bait for attracting large animals. During the Ice Age the average weight of mammals went from 300kg down to 10kg as mega fauna were hunted to extinction around the globe. Coinciding with this period our brain size grew exponentially (out of necessity) as hunted animals got smaller and more difficult to catch. Evolution does not support a large brain expending 25% of our energy for no reason. Since the advent of agriculture 12,000 years ago our brain size has decreased from 1,500 cubic centimeters to 1,350 cc.
That is against forum rules and has been reported.
This is a carnivore diet thread. A place where I do my best to help other carnivores. If you don't have anything more to contribute, please do not reply.
Let's agree to disagree.
Since the origin of our species approximately 300,000 years ago, modern humans have spread throughout the whole world. The period approximately 115,000 to 11,700 years ago, colloquially called the “Ice Age,” included incredible climate instability. Any plant based food sources during this time would have been left as bait for attracting large animals. During the Ice Age the average weight of mammals went from 300kg down to 10kg as mega fauna were hunted to extinction around the globe. Coinciding with this period our brain size grew exponentially (out of necessity) as hunted animals got smaller and more difficult to catch. Evolution does not support a large brain expending 25% of our energy for no reason. Since the advent of agriculture 12,000 years ago our brain size has decreased from 1,500 cubic centimeters to 1,350 cc.
That is against forum rules and has been reported.
This is a carnivore diet thread. A place where I do my best to help other carnivores. If you don't have anything more to contribute, please do not reply.
Let's agree to disagree.
Plants use less energy than meat. It takes 2-10x as much solar energy to grow meat as it does plants.
That said we can allow farmed animals to graze on grass which conveniently allows us to not need to use a lawnmower on it and grass and weeds grow themselves without most human intervention.
By this logic i could have reported you for disagreeing with me and being ideological while accusing me of the same. My position can stand scrutiny and i have not played games.
Thats great, but please don't spread cherry picked information.
We thrive on factual information even when its complicated.
I will give you an example.
Lets say keto helps some ME patients becasue it bypasses glucose metabolism. Thats great but a beef only diet omits vital nutirents.
But one can get those nutrients elsewhere, other keto sources, supplements and so forth.
Thus we can have our cake and eat it to, by being thorough.
Sounds good.
That said we can allow farmed animals to graze on grass which conveniently allows us to not need to use a lawnmower on it and grass and weeds grow themselves without most human intervention.
By this logic i could have reported you for disagreeing with me and being ideological while accusing me of the same. My position can stand scrutiny and i have not played games.
Thats great, but please don't spread cherry picked information.
We thrive on factual information even when its complicated.
I will give you an example.
Lets say keto helps some ME patients becasue it bypasses glucose metabolism. Thats great but a beef only diet omits vital nutirents.
But one can get those nutrients elsewhere, other keto sources, supplements and so forth.
Thus we can have our cake and eat it to, by being thorough.
Sounds good.
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This is a good point. I monitor my diet very carefuly and it is quite difficult to acquire the recommended RDI for calcium without diary, especially for women. Milk is high in calcium but also in phosphorus, drinking a lot of milk is not that healthy. The thing that changed in the last century is that the food we eat nowadays is much less nutritious than it was before. One study says that one hundred years ago we had up to three times more calcium, magnesium and iron in food. That explains why we don't get enough calcium in our diet, calcium that was in plants is simply no longer there, so we need to rely more on milk. I think that RDI for calcium is good though, when take into consideration all the minerals that we need.