Anyone use Avena Sativa instead of Abilify?

[xebex]

Also, possibly ginger, cinnamon, turmeric, maybe gota kola or ginseng ..... I'm just winging it here ....I'm sure there are others. Even simple black pepper could be useful in terms of increasing circulation .....

thank you very helpful. i find ginger quite helpful turmeric gives me bad brain fog so weird

 

[YippeeKi YOW !!]

i find ginger quite helpful turmeric gives me bad brain fog so weird

Try some cayenne and ginger .... ginger and turmeric are from the same family, but more like distant cousins than siblings. THe gota kola would be both a circulatory boost and a neuro boost. You could throw in some black pepper for an additional circulatory boost if you dont react badly to it ....

I know. It's frustrating when things that are helpful to a fair number of others totally kick us in the arse. Been there. Hate it .....

 

[andyguitar]

intersting! any idea what the other herbs are that you're s'posed to use with it?

Strong circulatory stimulants are: Ginger, Cayenne and Horseradish. Less strong but still effective are: Garlic, Fennel and Lovage. There are many others. When using herbs (or what are sometimes called "medicinal foods") you need to taste them to get the full effect. So taking them in a capsule or tablet is not as effective. But if you cant do it any other way it's better than nothing.

 

[hmnr asg]

is this an example of this avena sativa ?
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B003D4D3H2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I dont care if it sounds ridiculous. I have spent many thousands on supplements and meds, i will try one more. And abilify stopped working for me, so i have nothing at the moment that helps.

 

[xebex]

is this an example of this avena sativa ?
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B003D4D3H2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I dont care if it sounds ridiculous. I have spent many thousands on supplements and meds, i will try one more. And abilify stopped working for me, so i have nothing at the moment that helps.

The Facebook group suggests that life extension dopamind is the only one that works. I took a tincture so that I could start with a few drops, it worked well for one day then no longer had effects. I’d suggest dopamind but maybe dividing doses to start.

 

[hmnr asg]

@xebex
sorry for repeating my question, but this is all i could find (but not the tincture):
https://www.lifeextension.com/search#q=dopamind&t=coveo4A2453FD

Could you please let me know where you found the tincture?
Thanks!

 

[xebex]

@hmnr asg this is the tincture I got, (I got it specifically because it’s based in Canada) it’s got a low star rating because some experienced poor packaging. https://www.amazon.ca/Avena-Sativa-...638721362&sprefix=aveba+sativa,aps,146&sr=8-3

i think if I was going to try it again I’d try the life extension brand and split the capsules up.

 

[MartinK]

know anyone FB member Aristea Massaras, who was (I think) first with info about Avena Sativa? Is also here on FR forum? Looks like she do many own research and testing different treatments on herself, if I understood correctly.

 

[YippeeKi YOW !!]

Less strong but still effective are: Garlic, Fennel and Lovage.

Fennel is a fairly weak circulatory stimulant, but a decent digestive aid. It's also strongly estrogenic, so .....

When using herbs (or what are sometimes called "medicinal foods") you need to taste them to get the full effect.

I mix up a first-thing-in-the AM "tea" which includes the herbs that I find helpful, whisked into warm water with some stevia. I agree that alerting the body to what's in the mouth may increase or assist its availability, but the jury's still out on whether that's fact or traditional belief ....