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Daffodil

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charles...oh i missed your bloodwork. wow so everything is high. what are you on now? i totally agree with the infection theory of MS and the iron buildup. i read that viruses can cause iron buildup too.

und....my kidneys seems to be holding up. i have not done any bloodwork at VIP since beginning Vistide..its just so expensive. maybe i will do some testing at the 3 month mark. hhv6 antibodies would be a good idea to test now....i remember montoya's original study showed that his patients who responded had a spike in their antibody levels during treatment, indicating, he said, that the immune system was "seeing" the virus and fighting it.

is there a particular lab that is recommended for hhv 6 antibody testing now? i think some of the labs have stopped doing it.

thanks
sue
 

citybug

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I had the doppler, jugular test while having vertigo, bad POTS last year. They said it was normal.
 

Daffodil

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thanks eco.

i had a nap and woke up drenched again. wonder if this could mean something is happening?

i have had a more swollen head lately.. i mean, i think it is worse than before the vistide but i cant be completely sure.

2 doctors have told me i would know soon if its going to work...wish there was some way of knowing i was on the right track. i heard dr. peterson does inflammatory marker testing. anyone have any more details? perhaps i can get just TNF-a tested...i dont know.
 

taniaaust1

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Hi Daff
At least you will soon know with your new trial if its working on not.

High iron

Interesting Article about iron and ms--
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...eresting-Novel-Surgical-Treatment-for-MS.aspx

Relevance to us- viral/bacterial cns infection that causes ms, by sequestering iron and causing a build up in veins that supply blood to the brain. Perhaps an iron chelator, desferoxamine or exjade, both of which show anti viral activity against hiv (read xmrv) could hit the virus and remove iron from the veins at the same time.

Perhaps like those ppl with ms, we have some infection in our cns like the back of your brain (where you said you felt something growing and I have sharp pain) is being blocked by excess iron or iron deposits. Iron serves as a growth factor for most infections, bacteria/viruses. So maybe once it get desposited, fuels an infection that cant go away until its addressed- not to mentition the decreased blood flow to the brain.

I have a strange iron issue going on which I cant work out why its happening but its the opposite to yours charles. Im eatting meat 3x daily, massive amounts of it (sometimes as high as 600g per meal) as I also crave it but I have no iron stores showing on my blood tests. So I wonder what is going on with my iron.. Im either not absorbing it or something is using it faster then I can store it. (its only my iron stores which show im bascially anemic not the amount I currently have in my blood).
 

Charles555nc

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Tania,

Just want to say a couple things, theres intracellular iron and extracellular iron, I dont think u can really measure intracellular iron, but you might be high in iron and not know it.

2nd, how good is your diet? Sugar or diet drinks can set up a craving type cycle for meats, feeding bacteria that release chemicals that tell your body that it is hungry, even after large portions of food. Try eating just a salad for lunch and cut out all foods with sugar, a diet label or has preservatives.

3rd Drink alot of bottled water, I like mine with ice.

See how u feel

Im so bad off I have to eat this way or I feel like a walking corpse.
 

Charles555nc

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Everyone dies! But who truly lives!? Braveheart!!!!

Hope your doing ok Daffodil, I responded to your private message.

Just found out my ac unit was leaking freon and carbon monoxide! Wonderful
 

Daffodil

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it has come to my attention that some #@#@#@!# are using my thread to show how futile ARV's are for this disease, which is the opposite of what i wanted. this is a treatment in progress. ARV's have helped many.

i am going to delete this thread and perhaps start one when/if i am in recovery
 

Rooney

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it has come to my attention that some #@#@#@!# are using my thread to show how futile ARV's are for this disease, which is the opposite of what i wanted. this is a treatment in progress. ARV's have helped many.

i am going to delete this thread and perhaps start one when/if i am in recovery

I hope you don't delete it, Daffodil. I and, I'm sure so many of us, like it. "It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings" is the feeling I have about this whole retrovirus mess.

Thinking of you in Tennessee.
 

ukxmrv

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Sorry Daffodil,

Don't delete it. Stare them out if you can.

Treating a patient like that is beyond my contempt. Shows that they are just using us for their own purposes and don't give a **** for the well being of people here.
 

Charles555nc

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I think it will be really interesting when your titres for viruses go down on the Visitide, hopefully that will boost the effectiveness of the arvs.

There are alot of ppl spreading the message that "Xrmv is dead", meaning its been checked off the list of possible causes. I think its pretty clear there are alot of Xrmv mutants that are now being explored by the Whitemore Institute, so when testing gets more accurate the nay sayers will have to shut up.
 
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Daffodil, Hi I'm sorry you are being put through this hugsss... but I wanted you to know that I have been following your progress and Im seeing some very interesting results! I wanted to thankyou for all you are doing for those of us who cant for monitary reasons or being too ill to travel. What is most striking is the level that your NK cell funtion has come back to.

Plz dont let the nay sayers ruin you search for health...

with great respect Garyk
 

Daffodil

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charles. woah. why did you do that?

gary...thank you:)

MODERATOR....WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL HERE
 

Charles555nc

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I was having really bad neck pain....sometimes I have to go back on something I had to stop before when I get desperate enough.

I think I'll have to take 2 or 3 days off between doses. Less heart racing/inability to sleep, but less popping joints, muscle pain.

I think the deckoff jones blog is terribly wrong for quoting this thread as a anti retroviral suffering warning....maybe she hasnt read how great Daffodil natural killer cells have recovered, or how slow recovery is for us all.

Venting about our fate isnt specific to antiretrovirals treatment.
 
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