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Acupuncture

bertiedog

Senior Member
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South East England, UK
I love acupuncture while I am having it and even later in the day, but I feel like there is too much going on with me that it only works or helps temporarily. It's interesting because the acupuncturist I am going to believes that there are reasons for that. For example, heavy metal issues or gut issues or bigger issues. He is a Chinese Acupuncturist and I like that he sees that it isn't a cure all and doesn't help long term unless the illness isn't as severe.



I am glad that you do feel some benefit, I also see a Chinese Acupuncturist and I cannot believe how well I am doing. I have been going every other week since March and dare I say it the horrendous migraines I have had since 21 seem to have disappeared, at least for the moment. I haven't had one for 12 days and that wasn't too bad. The amount and frequency has changed quite dramatically.

My Chinese Acupuncturist also says there is something else defintely going on with me but he is very accepting of me taking steroids and thyroid medication every day and the treatment seems to work even though I am on the meds.

If everything continues as it is I will go to a treatment every 3rd week.

Pam
 
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80
Location
The Matrix
i've had some great results with acupuncture - previous to coming down with m.e. i had it for tennis elbow and it went immediately...i decide to have a course of six treatments just to bring me up to scratch as it were. i had had chronic asthma for 8 years and was on high strength inhaler 3-4 times a day...i changed my diet (less dairy), started nose breathing and used my inhaler as little as possible, tho that was not easy...at my next acupuncture appointment i told the lady what i was doing and she did what she felt would support my lungs the most. strangely it was two days following that treatment before i realised i hadn't touched my inhaler...i can't tell you how happy i was, free of the reliance at last...post m.e.

i still found acupuncture helpful but less so and it didn't las as long but was nice at the time...the acupucturist said i had "damp" which in english was a yeast infection/weakened spleen etc and that this made the chi sticky and so treatments weren't as powerful. anyway i ran out of money and didn't have acupuncture for a few years until one day i happened, by chance, on an electro-acupuncture machine being sold at a car boot (like a yard sale i think :)) for 2. i'd had a stitch in my liver, at the back for about 3 years :( i got home and did a treatment with it...and to my absolute joy and surprise it removed the stitch instantly...ohhh i can't possibly get across the physical, emotional and even mental relief this brought.

over a month i removed lots of retention toxicity in my abdomen...the model i used was the original electro-acupuncture device designed in the 70's by dr. julian jessel kenyon. he runs a natural health clinic in the uk that also treats m.e./cfs amongst other conditions. it is used in nhs hospitals up and down the country with great success. i used it on my mother when she dislocated her knee and it was the first pain free recovery she'd had from doing that (about the fifth time). also used it on my son with excellent results. i'll put a link to it, i hope that's ok, i certainly don't work for them lol! but should i recover i most definitely would sell it. it comes with a large treatment manual and locates the points using electrical resistance and a bleeper tone/light, the currenyt used is tiny, about 1000th that of a tens machine...so easy to use my 8 year old son could do it on his own.

i personally found it better than a needle treatment and obviously much cheaper. but i'm not saying it would be better than needle for everyone, just a possible alternative...2 for life it's cost me...i have seen them go on ebay for between 30 - 60. there are others like the acupen that i tried but found it to be pointless. the healthpoint electro-acupuncture device... i'm not touting this site as personally i'd buy a cheaper second hand model of ebay, but it gives some explanation about it...

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ixchelkali

Senior Member
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1,107
Location
Long Beach, CA
I've seen two acupuncturists. I found it helped a lot with the pain, but not the orthostatic intolerance or flu-like feeling. But the improvement in pain also helped a little with fatigue and getting more restful sleep.

The first acupuncturist I went to was on staff with my insurance. He was really good, but they would only pay for 10 sessions. So I found a private acupuncture doctor, but I couldn't afford to keep going to him.

It annoys me that accupuncture is the only treatment that my (staff model) insurance has offered which has actually improved my condition, but they limit it to 10 sessions. But they would let me have CBT indefinitely.
 

brenda

Senior Member
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2,266
Location
UK
Just got back from my second appointment with a doctor/acupuncturist. The endorphin release I get is tremendous - I have never taken street drugs but I bet the effect is similar The reason why I went for the treatment is that a joint in my finger is so swollen now with Lyme that it is unbearably painful and I cannot take pain medications. Since last week the swelling has increased but I did not feel the pain - it is a bit like the pethadrine you get in childbirth. The doctor thought that I had a good reaction to the treatment last week so I am hoping for some improvement this week.. I am really taken with acupuncture now and wish I had known about it earlier - but the cost :(

She wants me to have 2 treatments a week but I said that I might have to find someone else as the cost is too high - she is in a prime location. She suggested staying with her but having one treatment a week so I said ok. She left me for an extra 15 minutes with the needles in :) so maybe I won`t even miss the extra session.

I am looking at electric acupuncture devises.
 
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80
Location
The Matrix
hope i'm not wondering off topic, but i've always found the meridian/organ clock in chinese medicine very interesting. it seems to explain why i sometimes wake at the same time, give or take a few minutes, in the morning. depending on daylight saving, my colon generally wakes me around 5 or 7 a.m. During the day the opposite happens, so around my spleen/pancreas o'clock ;) (9-11 a.m.) or small intesine (1-3 p.m.) i feel sleepy. also i find it difficult to get to sleep between 9-11 p.m. which is gall bladder leading onto liver. at worst i wake up at every organ change during the night. i also think it accounts for nightmares.

it also shows in the diagram how the spleen/pancreas meridian is connected to the mouth and lips, hence peeling lips or mouth ulcers indicate weak spleen/pancreas meridian. overall it offers many windows into diagnoses that cannot be found elsewhere. another thing i once read by a chinese medicine doctor was that m.e. patients can look well because thay have internal heat (inflammation) which can give them a flushed appearence.

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*GG*

senior member
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6,389
Location
Concord, NH
My experience with acupuncture has been some immediate relief but not long term. By immediate I mean a few hours, not days. I first tried Community Acupuncture, you pay what you feel is appropriate, starting at $15 to 35.

I thought that perhaps since they can no get your back and chest, that this is why I did not experience good results. But I went to a practioner and paid $75/session, he gave me the insurance discount ($25) and took some Chinese medicine for my symptoms. But, again this was not any more helpful than sitting in a recliner at the Community place.

FYI
 
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Does anyone know of a good acupuncture specialist in the Los Angeles/Orange County region? This placeis flooded with them but I can't find a good one.
 

*GG*

senior member
Messages
6,389
Location
Concord, NH
Not sure if these places are "good" but here is some info:

They are low cost but not sure if they do or if you are looking for Chinese medicine also?

Eagle Rock Community Acupuncture
Valerie Brown, L.Ac.
2042 Colorado Blvd.
Los Angeles, California, 90041
United States
323-255-2700
Email Contact Form
http://www.ercaclinic.com

12 Recliners in large community room. Hours: Tuesday- 11AM-7PM Thursday- 2PM-8PM Friday- 10AM-2PM Saturday- 10AM-2PM $20-$40 sliding scale + $15 initial fee
Costa Acupuncture
Michael Costa, L.Ac., Carol Song, L.Ac.
10200 Venice Blvd #109B
Los Angeles / Culver City, California, 90232
United States
310.776.5096
Email Contact Form
http://www.YourSourceForWellness.org
Se Habla Espanol!

Loacted on Venice Blvd in Los Angeles, near the heart of downtown Culver City. We have a community room with comfortable recliners and tables. There is a seperate room for the initial intake.

There is a parking lot and plenty of street parking.

Business Hours:

Mon: 1:00pm-6:00pm
Wed: 10:30am-6:00pm
Fri: 10:30am-6:00pm
Sat: 9:30am-1:00pm

From this website: http://www.communityacupuncturenetwork.org/clinics#CA