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@Abdulrahman,
Until you define "cure", this discussion is pointless. You are not suggesting anything that hasn't been tried by many people with ME/CFS. Some of those things have improved their condition somewhat. None of those things are guaranteed cures for ME/CFS. They aren't even guarantees of substantial improvement. At best, they are some of the supplements that help some of the people some of the time. A cure? Nope.
EBV (of any variant) cannot be completely eliminated from the body, except possibly by stem cell transplant from a never-exposed donor (Good luck finding that donor, since 90+ percent of the population has been exposed). All herpes class viruses establish life-long latent infections, which can reactivate when the immune system is compromised. You cannot eliminate them from the body with any medication or supplement. The best you can do is push them back into long-term latency.
The following comment is irrelevant to the point because the variant of EBV does not change the fact that the nature of EBV is to establish a permanent infection. If it didn't, it wouldn't be EBV.
Unless you have lab tests and a diagnosis of ME/CFS by a top ME/CFS specialist according to the CCC or ICC, we cannot be confident you had the same illness we have. If you don't have objective lab tests showing substantial improvements in all the features of ME/CFS (immune dysfunction, PEM/PENE, etc), then your claims to a cure, while wonderful for you, are meaningless to us. One person's subjective and undocumented claims to being cured don't tell us anything about what will work for all ME/CFS (according to the CCC/ICC) patients. One person's objective and documented claim to being cured is not even a guarantee that what worked for them will cure all other patients. Give us sound, scientific evidence that shows the "cure" works reliably in hundreds of patients and we might think about buying the idea of a cure.
Fatigue and lots of infections does not equal ME/CFS. Lots of conditions can cause that, including poor diet and lifestyle choices, any of which might indeed be "cured" by your combination of supplements and healthy diet.
The illness we are talking about is defined in Myalgic encephalomyelitis: International Consensus Criteria. Read it if you want to know what ME/CFS is. Here is a very small extract, just to give you an idea. You will have to read the document itself to get the details of the criteria symptoms.
I'm glad that you managed to cure yourself of whatever condition had you ill for so many years. We can all be happy for people who regain their health after years of illness.
Hi SOC,
Thanks for the extensive reply you raise many points i will try to answer most:
- I did not know that i had CFID [roughly same as ME in UK] until year 2010 because i was confused with an immune damaging event that happened to me before my disease started in 1993. This led me to believe that I did not have CFID. But later with Lab testing proving Mycoplasma Infection, and also CEBV infection lab confirmation, i became 100% sure that i had CFID. This certainly helped to focus my mind and skills on the disease even though it’s a very difficult disease to understand and fight. I had about 75% of the symptoms shown on the CFID scale during the time when my CFID infection was strongest from 1993 to year 2000.
- You say that many others have known and tried the supplements-herbs before in the past but with no success or cure.......Are you implying that a haphazard program which uses a few of the supplements, in unknown dosages that are mostly incorrect and not studied carefully, is equal to an organized program that uses Herpes Family specific herbal extracts and natural chemicals such as Vitamin-D3 at Molar concentrations which achieve high success at inhibiting virus growth in laboratory conditions? Please, let us be logical and scientific. There is no comparison.
- "All herpes class viruses establish life-long latent infections, which can reactivate when the immune system is compromised. You cannot eliminate them from the body with any medication or supplement. The best you can do is push them back into long-term latency." This one is your best point and I agree that the evidence shows that Herpes family viral infections may be driven back into latency but never go away completely. But I think that the majority of CEBV patients would like to achieve just that so they are not fighting this disease daily. If it comes back a few years later, at least we will already have the tools and experience of sending it right back to where it came from.
- EBV versus mutant strain of EBV: I don't agree that it’s not an important issue. Of course it is. To the medical world this is causing major confusion; they keep assuming that CFID patients with CEBV are simply re-living a previous older EBV viral infection, possibly due to immune dysfunction. But this is a weak hypothesis that unfortunately causes them to lose sight that it has nothing to do with their patients previous standard EBV viral infection of their youth....the CEBV is caused by a totally different strain of EBV so it is not a re-infection at all. It’s a new infection with a dangerous, powerful strain of EBV that has far stronger ability in defeating the immune system. Once this is realized it becomes easier to fight and win over the CEBV infection. What can you take home from this point? The more dangerous strains of bacteria and viruses have stronger resistance to the chemicals which can normally kill off the common variety. However if we increase conventional dosages to much higher levels within the safe capacity of the human body to handle such medicines, then at a certain point such hardier infective organisms will die off effectively. It’s also a matter of finding new additional Achilles Heels to these mutant strains…some may die off at relatively low doses of a new natural agent.
Abdulrahman