32 of 40 chronically ill have spirochetes in their blood

Theodore

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Mats Lindström, relative
Titti Alvarsson, biomedical analyst, Dalapraktiken
Published February 14, 2016
Stockholm, SWEDEN


Abstract
PURPOSE: The purpose of this study is to investigate whether chronically ill people without known biomarkers (n=40), may have abnormalities in their blood compared to healthy people (n=5).

MATERIALS AND METHODS:
Venous blood is centrifuged to separate plasma and blood cells. The liquid in the area between the plasma and blood cells is sucked up with a pipette. Then it is centrifuged again and finally applied to a glass lens for microscope (dark field), 800 x magnification.

A diagnostic checklist was used with 75 (77 in swedish) questions of symptoms. At least 20 positive answers are believed to increase an active Lyme infection, except in cases erythema migrans occurs (can often sole basis for diagnosis).

RESULTS: In the group of chronically ill were spirochetes detected in the blood of 32 patients (80%) of the 40. None of the healthy subjects showed any abnormalities in the blood. Of the participants, 31 had diagnosis ME/CFS. Spirochetes were detected in the blood of 27 patients (87%).

CONCLUSION: Spirochetes are very common in some group of patients, especially with diagnosis ME/CFS.

https://newsaboutdisease.wordpress....onically-ill-have-spirochetes-in-their-blood/
 

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if you read the blog, you'll quickly realise it's just one person's speculations... this person is very controversial in Sweden... has no medical background at all... his wife is suffering from ME, so he desperately wants to help. definitely not to be taken seriously! it's just a personal blog, pretending to be something that it isn't...
 
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if you read the blog, you'll quickly realise it's just one person's speculations... this person is very controversial in Sweden... has no medical background at all... his wife is suffering from ME, so he desperately wants to help. definitely not to be taken seriously! it's just a personal blog, pretending to be something that is isn't...
Okey...I am sorry for having posted it then.

If I understand well Mats Lindström is the husband and Titti Alvarsson the one in charge of this "study"?

Edit : Titti Alvarsson is indeed the one who performed the "study", is he also controversial?
 
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Okey...I am sorry for having posted it then.
of course it's okay to post it. maybe best not to place it here in the scientific category, though?

i really hope people read the fine print, the disclaimers... might be very misleading otherwise, like for example if people mistakenly believe it's a proper scientific study that has been registered and approved, reviewed, published, designed by people with medical knowledge and training in methodology etc...
 
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I always like to take things like this seriously until proved otherwise. What I found intriguing was the video of a 'spirochaete' found in one of the patients' blood. If finding these is so easy what have all the big hospital labs been doing wrong? The video seems to show some sort of long thin moving animate line. But the online videos of Borrelia burgwhatsit show corkscrew lines corkscrewing. So what was the line in the video in this 'study'? Was it Borrelia nonburgthingamy? I am prepared to accept any convincing explanation. Seriously, actually.
 
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Dr. Edwards, the video and photos of spirochetes in that blog look consistent with microscopy images of borrelia (not just borrelia burgdorferi, but with many other variations of that bug). While they have a corkscrew shape, they look like shakey squiggly worms under the microscope. Disgusting actually:

https://www.google.com/search?q=borrelia microscopy


Not sure how serious or strict this study is, but if their results are to be believed, they may be on to something. It's also not the first time I read similar reports from scandinavian countries. It may be the case that borrelia (in all its many variations) is more ubiquitous than we thought, especially since testing is quite unreliable.

Just my two cents.
 

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The following seems fair enough:

From the Swedish summary: "Jag kan inte styrka att det är borrelia man ser. Men undersökningens resultat kan tyckas vara av så stort allmänintresse och folkhälsointresse att den bör följas upp."

Google translate: "I can not prove that it is Lyme disease [that is] seen. But the survey results may appear to be of such great public interest and public health interest that it should be followed up."
 

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Also under Discussion: "Den första borreliaspiroketen upptäcktes genom mikroskopi Varför är mikroskopi inte en accepterad metod att diagnosticera borrelia i kombination med en klinisk undersökning? Metoden kan knappast vara sämre än PCR och ELISA."

"The first Lyme spirochete was detected by microscopy Why is microscopy is not an accepted method of diagnosing Lyme disease in combination with the clinical examination ? The method can hardly be worse than the PCR and ELISA."

Seems to be a thoughtful public-health question.

[Edit:] Makes me think (wonder/suspect) that the authors (as so many others) have (likely) asked and asked and asked and asked and asked -- and have been ignored -- and have asked and asked and asked and asked, ad nauseum and until they're blue in the face, as the saying goes. And so now, they're screaming: Hey! LOOK at this! What is THIS then?!
 
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When i see the video it looks if i see the universe and falling stars :) This is not an accepted method. Unfortenately.