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This is my first post here. I have spent a lot of time reading threads and trying to absorb it. I have seen about 10 psychiatrist and several holistic MDs at this point. I have had brain scans at Amen Clinic in California. If you have had success treating the symptoms I describe, I would greatly appreciate your feedback. I am also attaching my Methylation results from Yasko's lab, as well. I have some questions specifically related to these results as well.
I have been fairly healthy in a physical sense for much of my life. I got sick a lot as a young child, but I haven't been too prone to sickness since then. However, my struggle has been with psychiatric symptoms since I was a teenager. I am 32 years old now. I have been diagnosed with the following psychiatric "disorders" by conventional doctors:
ADHD
depression
Generalized Anxiety
Social Anxiety
Bipolar II
OCD
psych issues from greatest discomfort to least:
social anxiety - crippling. I'm having a hard time holding down a job. Confidence is very low. Test positive for online Asperger's tests
brain fog/fatigue - I am not physically fatigued so much as lack brain energy with a lot of fog
rampant/disorganized thinking / lack of executive functioning/decision making / ADHD
depression
bipolar swings
I also have the following physical issues:
bowel inconsistency (more towards constipation)
stiff/tight shoulders and hips
tight muscles in upper back/shoulders and upper legs (especially quadriceps)
floaters in my vision
very difficult for me to read. have difficulty focusing my eyes, especially when viewing a monitor
tinnitus
wake up unrefreshed even though I fall asleep quickly
white coated tongue
stiff/awkward gait - I think about my walking posture all the time
prone to canker sores, but typically just when I get a cut in my mouth
chronically low free and total testosterone levels
elevated reverse T3 level - low body temp
varying cortisol levels from high to low
depressed CD-57 level around 70
inconclusive western blot test for Lyme
Double mutation on MTHFR c677t gene (I know you're not real big on genetic testing)
Single mutations on two MTRR genes
Overall 6 mutations on methylation panel colored "red"
I have currently been seeing a functional medicine MD for the past two years. Based on symptoms he began testing me for heavy metals, Lyme Disease, and methylation defects. He ruled out heavy metals as the causal issue, and he has been treating me for LD and methylation issues since. Two years later, I am just as anxious, but my fatigue has maybe improved marginally. I am currently taking around 100 pills per day which are mostly supplements with a few medications sprinkled in. This doctor is also treating the rest of my family for Lyme Disease and methylation defects with some benefits seen in my kids, but nothing drastic. We cannot afford to keep up this pace for financial and emotional reasons.
I'm currently tapering off of sustained release T3 to help with elevated reverse T3. I am also on testosterone shots and taking Dexedrine and alternating with Concerta 54mg to help with brain energy. I still feel like crap though.
My job is really struggling, and I'm having a hard time working with people at all. Making eye contact. Having normal converstion, etc. is almost unbearable. I've become pretty desperate, as I need an income to pay for treatment for myself and family.
I have been taking AdCbn from Source Naturals @ 10mg tabs roughly twice a day for the past week and a half for a total of about 20mg per day. I have been sure to hold between lip and gums for an hour or more. I have also added in MeCbn from Jarrow at 5mg tabs for the same daily dose of 20 mg. My doctor had previously had me on about 3 mg of methylfolate (Quatrefolic), and I have since increased that up to about 6 mg a day.
I thought a noticed a big relaxation feeling in my muscles one day when I took 50mg of AdCbn. It was last Sunday, and I had a horrible day to that point. I don't know if it was placebo though, as I have been very up and down since. I know I need to get a more steady dosing schedule to better monitor any progress, but supplements really haven't had much affect on me at all in the past.
Based on my mostly neuropsychiatric symptoms, do you see that methylation is the main underlying issue (as opposed to chronic infections, etc.)?
What do you think about my COMT / VDR Taq status? 2 of 3 COMTs are Hetero along with VDR Taq. Yasko seems to favor HydB12 over MethylB12, but this seems to be controversial. MethylB12 with methylfolate OK in this case?
I have been taking large doses of Niacinamide (1500 - 3000 mg per day) for many months now. Dr. Klinghardt is very big on Niacin / Niacinamide to help with anxiety and depression. Does Niacinamide have a negative affect on methylation? I have read much that Niacin can slow it down.
Based on my methylation results, could a Lithium deficiency be an issue? I have been supplementing at 10mg per day for a while with no good affect. However, I have read that doses up to 40 mg are safe.
DMG or TMG or neither based on my methylation results? A lot of controversy on this one as well. Dosages?
I have been living in survival mode for far too long, and I need to get 50% better quickly to get a job to keep food on the table. I am seeing a doctor in a couple of weeks that is a psychiatrist that specializes in methylation. I appreciate any help you might have prior to this appointment!
Methylation results - bolded are colored red on my printout
COMT V158M +/- Hetero
COMT H62H +/- Hetero
COMT 61 -/- G
VDR Taq Tt Hetero = +/-
VDR Fok FF C = -/- ??
MAO A R297R +/+ T
ACAT 1-02 +/- Hetero
MTHFR C677T +/+ T
MTHFR 3 -/- C
MTHFR A1298C -/- A
MTR A2756G +/- Hetero
MTRR A66G +/- Hetero
MTRR H595Y +/- Hetero
MTRR K350A +/- Hetero
MTRR R415T -/- C
MTRR S257T -/- T
MTRR 11 +/- Hetero
BHMT 1 +/+ T
BHMT 2 -/- C
BHMT 4 -/- A
BHMT 8 +/+ T
AHCY 1 -/- A
AHCY 2 -/- T
AHCY 19 -/- A
CBS C699T +/- Hetero
CBS A360A -/- C
CBS N212N -/- C
SUOX S370S -/- No Support Needed
SHMT C1420T -/- G
NOS D298E +/- Hetero
Thanks so much for reading!
Ryan
I have been fairly healthy in a physical sense for much of my life. I got sick a lot as a young child, but I haven't been too prone to sickness since then. However, my struggle has been with psychiatric symptoms since I was a teenager. I am 32 years old now. I have been diagnosed with the following psychiatric "disorders" by conventional doctors:
ADHD
depression
Generalized Anxiety
Social Anxiety
Bipolar II
OCD
psych issues from greatest discomfort to least:
social anxiety - crippling. I'm having a hard time holding down a job. Confidence is very low. Test positive for online Asperger's tests
brain fog/fatigue - I am not physically fatigued so much as lack brain energy with a lot of fog
rampant/disorganized thinking / lack of executive functioning/decision making / ADHD
depression
bipolar swings
I also have the following physical issues:
bowel inconsistency (more towards constipation)
stiff/tight shoulders and hips
tight muscles in upper back/shoulders and upper legs (especially quadriceps)
floaters in my vision
very difficult for me to read. have difficulty focusing my eyes, especially when viewing a monitor
tinnitus
wake up unrefreshed even though I fall asleep quickly
white coated tongue
stiff/awkward gait - I think about my walking posture all the time
prone to canker sores, but typically just when I get a cut in my mouth
chronically low free and total testosterone levels
elevated reverse T3 level - low body temp
varying cortisol levels from high to low
depressed CD-57 level around 70
inconclusive western blot test for Lyme
Double mutation on MTHFR c677t gene (I know you're not real big on genetic testing)
Single mutations on two MTRR genes
Overall 6 mutations on methylation panel colored "red"
I have currently been seeing a functional medicine MD for the past two years. Based on symptoms he began testing me for heavy metals, Lyme Disease, and methylation defects. He ruled out heavy metals as the causal issue, and he has been treating me for LD and methylation issues since. Two years later, I am just as anxious, but my fatigue has maybe improved marginally. I am currently taking around 100 pills per day which are mostly supplements with a few medications sprinkled in. This doctor is also treating the rest of my family for Lyme Disease and methylation defects with some benefits seen in my kids, but nothing drastic. We cannot afford to keep up this pace for financial and emotional reasons.
I'm currently tapering off of sustained release T3 to help with elevated reverse T3. I am also on testosterone shots and taking Dexedrine and alternating with Concerta 54mg to help with brain energy. I still feel like crap though.
My job is really struggling, and I'm having a hard time working with people at all. Making eye contact. Having normal converstion, etc. is almost unbearable. I've become pretty desperate, as I need an income to pay for treatment for myself and family.
I have been taking AdCbn from Source Naturals @ 10mg tabs roughly twice a day for the past week and a half for a total of about 20mg per day. I have been sure to hold between lip and gums for an hour or more. I have also added in MeCbn from Jarrow at 5mg tabs for the same daily dose of 20 mg. My doctor had previously had me on about 3 mg of methylfolate (Quatrefolic), and I have since increased that up to about 6 mg a day.
I thought a noticed a big relaxation feeling in my muscles one day when I took 50mg of AdCbn. It was last Sunday, and I had a horrible day to that point. I don't know if it was placebo though, as I have been very up and down since. I know I need to get a more steady dosing schedule to better monitor any progress, but supplements really haven't had much affect on me at all in the past.
Based on my mostly neuropsychiatric symptoms, do you see that methylation is the main underlying issue (as opposed to chronic infections, etc.)?
What do you think about my COMT / VDR Taq status? 2 of 3 COMTs are Hetero along with VDR Taq. Yasko seems to favor HydB12 over MethylB12, but this seems to be controversial. MethylB12 with methylfolate OK in this case?
I have been taking large doses of Niacinamide (1500 - 3000 mg per day) for many months now. Dr. Klinghardt is very big on Niacin / Niacinamide to help with anxiety and depression. Does Niacinamide have a negative affect on methylation? I have read much that Niacin can slow it down.
Based on my methylation results, could a Lithium deficiency be an issue? I have been supplementing at 10mg per day for a while with no good affect. However, I have read that doses up to 40 mg are safe.
DMG or TMG or neither based on my methylation results? A lot of controversy on this one as well. Dosages?
I have been living in survival mode for far too long, and I need to get 50% better quickly to get a job to keep food on the table. I am seeing a doctor in a couple of weeks that is a psychiatrist that specializes in methylation. I appreciate any help you might have prior to this appointment!
Methylation results - bolded are colored red on my printout
COMT V158M +/- Hetero
COMT H62H +/- Hetero
COMT 61 -/- G
VDR Taq Tt Hetero = +/-
VDR Fok FF C = -/- ??
MAO A R297R +/+ T
ACAT 1-02 +/- Hetero
MTHFR C677T +/+ T
MTHFR 3 -/- C
MTHFR A1298C -/- A
MTR A2756G +/- Hetero
MTRR A66G +/- Hetero
MTRR H595Y +/- Hetero
MTRR K350A +/- Hetero
MTRR R415T -/- C
MTRR S257T -/- T
MTRR 11 +/- Hetero
BHMT 1 +/+ T
BHMT 2 -/- C
BHMT 4 -/- A
BHMT 8 +/+ T
AHCY 1 -/- A
AHCY 2 -/- T
AHCY 19 -/- A
CBS C699T +/- Hetero
CBS A360A -/- C
CBS N212N -/- C
SUOX S370S -/- No Support Needed
SHMT C1420T -/- G
NOS D298E +/- Hetero
Thanks so much for reading!
Ryan