What was your first year of ME/CFS like?

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Hi there,

I'm one year into something, now. I suspect ME/CFS, not official diagnosed.

I was wondering, how the first year typicial feels like. I'm not really sure about, whats the reason or benefit, but I think, I'm trying to understand whats the typical process getting ill. Its hard to figure it out based on other threads, because introductions are great, but often not that detailed, and most threads are just kind a snapshot in time, with just a few known circumstances for each case. Its simply hard to map theese with the own experience, not knowing about the bigger picture of each person.

If you are interested in this as well, please feel free to answer the follwing questions to get things formalized somehow.

1) What was your life before?
2) What was the onset? Any known triggers? What symptoms did you have? Did they changed within that year?
3) What was your severity in the first year?
4) Did you reached your alltime baseline within that year or later?
5) Did you experienced something more specific like POTS, PEM, fatigue, brainfog ect.?
6) What have you done in this year? Did you worked?
7) What about activities, even sports? How did this affected you?
8) Have you tried any treatments in this first year? Did they Changed anything?
9) What was your mood?
10) Would you have changed anything? Have you any advice?


If your are behind the first year, please tell us more about your process.

Lets try to not discuss specific things people might write here and create new threads or links for that purpose. Links to this other threads are for sure welcome in here.
 
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1) What was your life before?
I was loving my stressful job, with days of 12 or sometimes 16 hours of work. Sometimes I was annoyed from things not working out like I expected, but there were achievements as well. I have a wife, which I love, a great family, a bunch of good friends and a dog. All in all a very joyful life, mentally highly active, but not physically. (almost zero sports, besides walking/ playing with my dog every day and biking from time to time).

2) What was the onset? Any known triggers? What symptoms did you have? Did they changed within that year?
Viral onset for me. Many people with viral onset describe severe symptoms in the first weeks, then improving for a few days or weeks and then level out somewhere between.
My experience is similiar, I had a virus for two month or something, with very light symptoms, basically just sore throat. Then symptoms kicked in from one day to another. But all in all first weeks were pretty okay, like a flu doesnt come out. I had flu-like symptomes like head and joint aches, swollen lymph nodes, sore throat, cough/ phlegm, physical exaution. Additionally unfamiliar weird symptoms, like excessive sweating, feeling cold, especially in neck and legs, weight loss, pinning in breast, waking up often at night, mental exaution. The last one was escpecially weird, because having a flu I used to spend my time with computer gaming, watching films, ect., until its over. That wasnt possible this time, without instantly triggering symptoms. So, I rested, but no need to stay in bed or anything.
Then it becomes better for a few weeks, but symptoms never disappeared completely.
Over the following month some symptoms disappeared (head/ joint ache, pinning in breast, cough), while others becoming present (dry eyes, tinnitus or nausea), but most simpley doenst went away (like swollen lymph nodes, sore throat, phlegm, physical/ mental exaution, excessive sweating, feeling cold). Weight sustained at something between 5 and 10 % below before.

3) What was your severity in the first year?
Compared to what I read from others, I would consider myself as mild in the first year.

4) Did you reached your alltime baseline within that year or later?
More or less, thats where I am now. Nothing getting better nor worse, no matter what I do.

5) Did you experienced something more specific like POTS, PEM, fatigue, brainfog ect.?
I have POTS (50-60 bpms laying down and 90-100 bpm standing, sometime 110), but experienced no really issues, e.g. dizziness or something. Due to just starting pulse measuring during this year, I was wondering, whether I already had it before.
I dont think I experienced PEM for now. I had some weird experiences, though. One day, after a long meeting, I felt like not able to move any part of my body, just for half a hour or so. That just occured one time so far. But I suspect thats PEM have to feel like, just worse and much longer. How brave you guys must be, experiencing this for a really long time!
I’m not really exhausted or fatigued. Energy seems not to be the problem, but concentration, if I can say so. Maybe its brainfog. But I’m still able to do some very mentally demandful things, just not every time.
But interesting enough, I experience the first time in my life, that „stress“ triggers something. I used to be very stress resistant, indeed at work I was known for this. Now, every time I focus on things (even it is something enjoyful, like watching a movie or computer gaming), getting annoyed of something or doing light activities, I trigger something. At first especially sweating, feeling cold or sore throat kicks in.

6) What have you done in this year? Did you worked?
Most time, I read about mild affected people, they tried to proceed normally in the first year.
I tried to immediately calm down in the first weeks of illness. When things started to improve I got back to work. After two month of not getting better any further, I stayed at home.
Meanwhile I was seeing a million clueless doctors, reading a lot of stuff here and from other sources, trying to keep my symptoms tracked, lurking for correlations ect.
But all in all, I was home most of the time.

7) What about activities, even sports? How did this affected you?
I’m not homebound, but I try to take it very slowly. Doing some work, walking the dog, cooking, playing computer, watching a movie, gently exercise ect. Most of this triggers light symptoms from time to time, but I feel like it helps me staying sane.
I do every day one hour of exercise (pilates, core strengthening, lifting weights ect.) I’m feeling fine with it. Just a little sore throat and more sweating than usual. Additionaly I spend one hour either e-biking or on a half recumbent hometrainer. Normal biking is not really possible for me. Not because of strength, but feeling additionally flu-like afterwards and some feeling, possibly close to PEM the day after. Staying below 115 bpm heart rate and I’m pretty fine. Thats why e-biking and hometraing works for me.
All in all, I would say I'm able to do 6 to 8 hours of light activity (online time, watching a movie, reading, socializing, light work ect.) and 2 to 4 hours demandful activites (concentrated work, stressful computer gaming, physical exercise ect.).

8) Have you tried any treatments in this first year? Did they Changed anything?
Some supplements, but just for a few weeks. Nothing to expect any results from.
Since I got diagnosed with CCI/AAI from Dr. Gilete I do some sports (see above), because I am afraid of moving further surgery or something. I’m just not severe enough. So I try to improve things conventional.
I did water fasting for 7 days, on advise from my GP. It was hard, not mentally, but physically, with increased POTS (up to 145 bpm standing) and nausea. My sweating was highly reduced, but nothing I would consider as any improvement. Within 4 to 5 days after, everything got „normalized“ tot he level before, maybe with a slight improvement.
Biggest impact for now has getting in a better mood. Accept things.

9) What was your mood?
I can imagine a lot of feelings, depressed, confused, thankful for the life before, hopeful ect. Within the last year, I felt all of them.
The last month, I am pretty resigning. I try to arrange with things. Simply do things that feel good, despite some symptoms, and avoid annoying or obviously harmful things.
But I cant deny, that I am still thinking a lot about my illnes, wondering if it does make it worse sometimes.

10) Would you have changed anything? Have you any advice?
No idea about that one. Maybe I would take a better care before onset. Bad advice, because no one without an issue will ever read this.
 
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Plum

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I'm unable to answer all of these due to being too ill, but I did want to answer number 10... I didn't get diagnosed right away, took a few years of me being really ill. So I wish I had been diagnosed quicker AND I wish I had learnt about pacing in my first year. Things like my Garmin heart rate monitor have helped. As has being taught how to properly lie down, supported enough by pillows so my body actually relaxes and rests.

I believe I am worse today because of not knowing this.
 

Plum

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When your'e up to it, can you say more on this? I don't think i've heard of this before. Thanks.
I was given something very similar to this a while ago. My version is a bit different due to neck issues but the first picture is the closest to what I do. When you get enough pillows, in the right places - knees, head, neck, back and arms ALL supported by pillows, it's a VERY nice feeling. I think I needed 6 pillows to do this.

https://www.epsom-sthelier.nhs.uk/download.cfm?doc=docm93jijm4n1306.pdf&ver=1896
 

Jackb23

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@HansG
1) What was your life before?
I was incredibly active. I was 18 at the time and in the best shape of my life. I would do High Intensity Interval Training several times a week, would box a few times a week, etc.. I was pretty outgoing and was just starting to take school seriously. I was looking forward to college.

2) What was the onset? Any known triggers? What symptoms did you have? Did they changed within that year?

My onset was a result of Mono. I had extreme fatigue to the point where sitting up in the car was exhausting. I slept all the time. My brain was incredibly foggy and my vision was blurred. Over the course of the year my fatigue got a little bit better but my brain fog remained. I specifically remember showing up for college and I couldn't remember my name when I first introduced myself to my roommates. It felt as if I was in a dream and my sleep schedule began to shift towards a more nocturnal pattern.

3) What was your severity in the first year?
I would say I was an 8 on the scale physically, but mentally I would say I was a 3 or 4.

4) Did you reached your alltime baseline within that year or later?
I do not know what you mean by all time baseline. My symptoms did plateau during that year and my functioning has remained somewhat stagnant since then.

5) Did you experienced something more specific like POTS, PEM, fatigue, brainfog ect.?
Yes, I experienced the last 3 with out a doubt. And what I would describe as sub-clinical pots-- increased urination, heavy sweating and lightheadedness.

6) What have you done in this year? Did you worked?
At first I did a lot of waiting. I knew that something was incredibly off and I knew it had been triggered by mono. I read some studies about the recovery of mono and how a small majority (1/10th) had symptoms at 6 months and at 12 months. I began to get quite terrified and flew back home to go to the doctor. The doctor didn't have any idea what was going on and tested cortisol which of course didn't show anything particularly significant. I saw a few more doctors but received no answers. I went back on amphetamines for ADHD, but after a couple weeks my cognition was so much worse. I couldn't remember anything and was horrified with how off and befuddled my brain was.

7) What about activities, even sports? How did this affected you?
I tried to get back into exercise but when I would, my vision would be incredibly spotty for many hours after. I also got much more fogged after exercising and began to feel "weakness".

8) Have you tried any treatments in this first year? Did they Changed anything?
-DHEA, no
-Pregnenolone, no
-Focalin, made me worse
-Adderall, made me worse
-Zoloft, helped make me more "comfortable" with the circumstances but still felt incredibly off.

9) What was your mood?
I was extremely scared, I felt doomed. I didn't know what was going on, and what was worse was that the doctors didn't know either. I was a freshman at college and I wasn't surviving or making friends. I had this very disappointing feeling that people weren't getting to meet who I really was and I had a very difficult time accepting what I was going through. I flew home to ohio a lot to either see doctors or just confide in my parents. I began to start researching, but still had a lot of questions about what was really going on and what exactly I was suffering from.



Hope this helps.
 

southwestforests

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1) It was Christmas 2005 and I had been in and out of retail for around 20 years and was about 6 months from becoming manager of a franchise hobby shop.

2.0) Got super exhausted during the Christmas shopping season, far more, exponentially more, absolutely absurdly more, than ever before.
Had to cut back to part time since I simply Could Not work full time any more.
2.1) & 5) A couple months later the brain fog hit to the point that right in the middle of ringing up a customer I suddenly had no idea, ZERO idea, how cash registers worked.
And could not remember our home phone number.
And could not remember home address.
AND could not even remember where home WAS.
Was certain I was having a stroke.

4.0 ) Did you reached your alltime baseline within that year or later?
No. Have been several declining stages since then. They continue.
Lat year I lost ability to drive any further than about 15 to 20 miles.

4.1) My Dad medically retired from USN with this around 1986 & I manifested it around 20 years later.
My baseline has declined further a lot faster than his did.
He was able to work and go back to college and get masters degree after retirement.
Then work for several years after that.
My working days were clearly done and over with less than a year after diagnosis.

7) What about activities, even sports? How did this affected you?
There are days I simply can not focus enough to merely glue 2 model parts together.
And there are days where I can focus enough but my coordination is too far off to do that.
Driving 2 miles to a location I can fly kites tires me enough to make it necessary to substantially reduce flying time a lot so I will have energy to drive the 2 miles back home.
(WTF?????? All I'm doing is standing around holding strings!!!)
Assuming, that is, that doing the getting ready to go out doesn't wear me out too much to go out.

9) What was your mood?
I can imagine a lot of feelings, depressed, confused, thankful for the life before, hopeful ect. Within the last year, I felt all of them.
The last month, I am pretty resigning. I try to arrange with things. Simply do things that feel good, despite some symptoms, and avoid annoying or obviously harmful things.
But I cant deny, that I am still thinking a lot about my illnes, wondering if it does make it worse sometimes.
That sure sounds familiar.

10) Would you have changed anything?
Absolutely!
I would have changed history to where medical researchers and health care providers took this crap seriously several decades sooner and only offered realistic and accurate care and treatments.
 
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