I have had/got a stubborn UTI which didn't respond to my usual herbals which consist of Uva Ursi, Andrographis and also Mannose despite 10 days of treatment.
It was weird because almost from the first sign of the UTI the pain radiated into my gums, especially above where I have 2 small cracks in my teeth which are going to need new fillings having checked this out with my dentist before the issue started. The pain at times in my gums was so bad and I was feeling so ill in myself I even looked into emergency treatment but managed to hold off once I started 500 mg Azithromycin but that was after 9 days of being so ill and in pain.
I managed to get to see my dentist again on day 12 of all this starting and to my amazement he said there was no sign of infection. He checked my gums, teeth and did 2 X Rays and from my symptoms he felt it was referred pain from the UTI which I have never heard of before or experienced despite many UTIs over the years (I am 74 now).
Thankfully I started to feel better and got some energy back and virtually no pain after 7 days of the Azithro but still have the odd burning sensation, usually in the evening so I am carrying on with this plus 3 Uva Ursi daily but don't know how much longer I need to take them as I haven't been to my GP with this. In the past I have had horrible experiences where my GP told me there was no sign of infection and sarcastically said she would give me a course of an antibiotics but she was wondering how this could help me because I didn;t have an infection! Turned out when she sent the sample to the hospital, a week later it came back positive for E Coli but of course I never received an apology. I felt was too ill this time to go through such an experience hence I order the Azithromycine from an online pharmacy for a "just in case" situation like this one.
There are a few things I don't fully understand about this horrible experience -
1) I tested my urine many times before I got so ill and realised it had to be an infection. The test strips never showed any sign of an infection. They were all in date although the container had probably been opened some time last year.
2) Usually I respond after at least a week to the herbals but not this time
3) As mentioned above I don't understand this awful pain in my gums which resembled an abscess and I would have put any money on this is what had developed.
4) This UTI obviously hasn't completely gone although it is hugely improved so I am continuing with the Azithro, currently on Day 9 of it and was wondering if this is common with ME/CFS that we need longer treatment that standard.
It's wonderful to have some energy and sense of well-being back but I am still a bit shocked over how ill all this made me so ill.
Finally there is one possible piece of the puzzle that might explain some it. I have now been on the lowest dose of Candersarten 4 mg daily for 2 months which is helping the chronic daily migraines I had developed and one of the side effects listed is that it can lower lympocytes and impair one's immune system. I always have a low number of lymphocytes and in January this year after a week on the Candersarten as the first trial of it, the number was 1.2 which was below the range of 1.5.
I can see this is a real dilemma because its the only migraine preventative that has reduced the migraines and I have tried practically all of them and usually I am unable to tolerate them or otherwise they haven't worked.
Sorry this post is rather long and a bit complicated but I would be very grateful for any helpful comments.
Pam
It was weird because almost from the first sign of the UTI the pain radiated into my gums, especially above where I have 2 small cracks in my teeth which are going to need new fillings having checked this out with my dentist before the issue started. The pain at times in my gums was so bad and I was feeling so ill in myself I even looked into emergency treatment but managed to hold off once I started 500 mg Azithromycin but that was after 9 days of being so ill and in pain.
I managed to get to see my dentist again on day 12 of all this starting and to my amazement he said there was no sign of infection. He checked my gums, teeth and did 2 X Rays and from my symptoms he felt it was referred pain from the UTI which I have never heard of before or experienced despite many UTIs over the years (I am 74 now).
Thankfully I started to feel better and got some energy back and virtually no pain after 7 days of the Azithro but still have the odd burning sensation, usually in the evening so I am carrying on with this plus 3 Uva Ursi daily but don't know how much longer I need to take them as I haven't been to my GP with this. In the past I have had horrible experiences where my GP told me there was no sign of infection and sarcastically said she would give me a course of an antibiotics but she was wondering how this could help me because I didn;t have an infection! Turned out when she sent the sample to the hospital, a week later it came back positive for E Coli but of course I never received an apology. I felt was too ill this time to go through such an experience hence I order the Azithromycine from an online pharmacy for a "just in case" situation like this one.
There are a few things I don't fully understand about this horrible experience -
1) I tested my urine many times before I got so ill and realised it had to be an infection. The test strips never showed any sign of an infection. They were all in date although the container had probably been opened some time last year.
2) Usually I respond after at least a week to the herbals but not this time
3) As mentioned above I don't understand this awful pain in my gums which resembled an abscess and I would have put any money on this is what had developed.
4) This UTI obviously hasn't completely gone although it is hugely improved so I am continuing with the Azithro, currently on Day 9 of it and was wondering if this is common with ME/CFS that we need longer treatment that standard.
It's wonderful to have some energy and sense of well-being back but I am still a bit shocked over how ill all this made me so ill.
Finally there is one possible piece of the puzzle that might explain some it. I have now been on the lowest dose of Candersarten 4 mg daily for 2 months which is helping the chronic daily migraines I had developed and one of the side effects listed is that it can lower lympocytes and impair one's immune system. I always have a low number of lymphocytes and in January this year after a week on the Candersarten as the first trial of it, the number was 1.2 which was below the range of 1.5.
I can see this is a real dilemma because its the only migraine preventative that has reduced the migraines and I have tried practically all of them and usually I am unable to tolerate them or otherwise they haven't worked.
Sorry this post is rather long and a bit complicated but I would be very grateful for any helpful comments.
Pam
