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the man has some nerve calling himself a "CFS Expert" IMHO

leelaplay

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New Book from CFS Expert Jacob Teitelbaum, MD

Richard Crouse to CO-CURE today

[RC: The following information is provided by Jacob Teitelbaum, MD, Medical Director of the Fibromyalgia & Fatigue Centers, Inc.]

Jacob Teitelbaum, MD, author of "From Fatigued to Fantastic!," the best-selling resource on chronic fatigue syndrome, has released a new book "Beat Sugar Addiction Now!" The new book is an exploration of 4 types of sugar addiction, the damage caused to our health, and the recovery treatment for each. CFS patients are particularly vulnerable to sugar addiction issues, and it was Dr. Teitelbaum's personal experiences recovering from CFS that led to his initial understanding of this problem. You can learn more about his new book at http://tinyurl.com/y99rebx.
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gracenote

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I have never, ever heard of a connection between chronic fatigue syndrome and sugar addiction. As if we need more stigma attached to us. In all fairness, maybe I should take a look at his book before jumping to conclusions, but I just don't want to, so I'm not going to.

I'm with islandfinn.
 
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George

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I've noticed an increase in the Fatigue and Fibro .com advertising as well lately. But I think it's a good thing. (grin) After all, if XMRV turns out to be the "it" behind CFS ,him and his posse stand to loose a lot of patients to legitimate doctors who will be pushing um,...I mean prescribing legitimate medicine from a standard protocol. How boring! (grin) They'll all have to retire!

It's good that he's moving on to sugar problems. Hope he sells a lot of books really quick. Cause think about it. If XMRV is it did he really recover? Will he get tested for XMRV? hmmmmmmmmmmmm. (grins)
 

serenity

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i had an awful appt last week with a fibro "specialist" pushin this stuff. i was so deflated, had gotten all excited about seeing a fibro guy who was supposed to know about fibro - & then he's pushing the dang SHINE protocol? crap.
anyway, i know i have a sugar addiction - i freely admit it, i know i am hooked. i have given up drugs alcohol caffeine, etc. i am doing pretty well but not ready to let my sugar go, someone would really have to prove to me that diet causes fibro... ugh, or that eatin your Wheaties can cure it or vitamins or acupunture or Mucinex (we all know about Armand right?) - ugh. what will they come up with next.
sorry, my little rant. i don't believe sugar causes XMRV, fibro or CFS.
 

Stuart

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Quick business plan remodel to make Fibro and Fatigue Centers, Diet and Weight Loss Clinics! :rolleyes:
 

Otis

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Quick business plan remodel to make Fibro and Fatigue Centers, Diet and Weight Loss Clinics! :rolleyes:

Hopefully sooner rather than later! The joker is the "Mediacal Director" which means he gets a huge cut of the FFC's massive profits.
 

starryeyes

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Dr. Teitelbaum is another charlatan making huge amounts of money off of desperate CFS patients and perpetuating propaganda to the world about us that hurts us all.
 

creekfeet

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Oh, come on. Sugar causes ME/CFS, Fibro, XMRV, HIV, skin cancer, earwax and double-jointed-ness. Oh, wait, no. It causes dental caries. Never mind.


There is so much vindication on the way for us all. Dr. T will have to eat his sugar beats.


Oh yeah, speaking of sugar beats, is the book only about BEAT Sugar Addiction, or does CANE Sugar count too? Because he could use a caning.
 

Frickly

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Why does he promote D Ribose if sugar is such a huge problem in CFS? I am a salt person myself. I rarely eat sweets and do not have cravings for them. It's too bad as he has such a nice face and seems so genuine. :cool:
 

IntuneJune

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Sumar, mucinex and other musings

EDIT: Sumar, what the heck is sumar. Sorry, I am lying in bed in the dark, keyboarding on a small notebook, hubby is asleep beside me...... I did not notice the typo....that should say suGar.


anyway, i know i have a sugar addiction - i freely admit it, i know i am hooked. i have given up drugs alcohol caffeine, etc. i am doing pretty well but not ready to let my sugar go, someone would really have to prove to me that diet causes fibro... ugh, or that eatin your Wheaties can cure it or vitamins or acupunture or Mucinex (we all know about Armand right?) - ugh. what will they come up with next.
sorry, my little rant. i don't believe sugar causes XMRV, fibro or CFS.

WOW, gave up the caffeine, I am impressed. My addictions include caffeine, starches, and sugars. Chocolate in particular..... MILK chocolate....... wait, I have to wipe the keyboard from the drool.

I also don't believe our diet causes fibro--etc, but I have experienced big changes in how I feel when I eliminated wheat due to first a wheat allergy, then onto being diagnosed as a celiac. Nope not the root cause of my fatigue and pain, but eliminating ingesting these allergens lightened my burdeon.

For the past couple of days, I have been trying to remember the name of the OTC med that folks were using....mucinex!!!!!

Is anyone taking mucinex and avoiding salicylates???? This was very popular for awhile but I have not read anything about mucinex of late

June
 

serenity

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thanks InTune, yep gave up my coffee a couple years ago. had to for a tummy problem caused by too many Aleve. otherwise i have no tummy trouble tho. realized i felt better without the coffee, i used to not eat & just drink it all day. doc made me put on 10 lbs, that was good sense & i do feel better. sure if you actually have Celiac's then yes - no to the wheat. but i don't think i'm wheat intolerant, not that i know of.
darrk chocoloate for me... ummm!!!!
:)
oh & me too on the starchy carbs, i include that with sugar. i'm aware i'm self medicating some, i know alcohol which i was severely addicted to (gave it up 12 years ago) turns to sugar in the body. so for sure i've been using anything i could get my hands on to up my energy for most of my life.
ohh, & the Mucinex. yes this was pushed on my recently by the mom of a daughter who swore it was workin for her.
 
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Gerwyn

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dr. Teitelbaum is another charlatan making huge amounts of money off of desperate cfs patients and perpetuating propaganda to the world about us that hurts us all.

different kinds of addiction.they will have to rewrite all neurobiological textbooks now! What a true genius this man is!
 

starryeyes

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I'm so glad I'm here where people are smart! I've been on other forums where people try to make me change my diet. I happen to be into savory foods, not sweet anyway and some foods set me off but sugar isn't one of them.
 

serenity

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uh! me too Teej! me too!!!
so excited to find a forum where people aren't into all that stuff that just sounds like pure nonesense to me!
 
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_Kim_

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What Crap!

I don't know why, but I decided to click on the link to the press release of the book (above in i.f.'s post) and then onto Amazon where I took a look inside.

Ready to get a life you love? Read on to find out how. Love and blessings, Jacob Teitelbaum MD
The first few chapters deal with helping you, the sugar addict, figure out which type of addiction you have. Dr. T includes handy quizzes so that you don't have to rely on expensive unreliable diagnostic tests, because as Dr. T. says "Standard blood testing for hormonal deficiencies will not reveal the problems until they are very severe, sometimes leaving people deficient for decades". Who needs labwork when you can just take a quiz?

Here are some of the claims he includes about CFS/FMS <---- which he mentions in tandem every time, as if they are one and the same illness.

I have also seen thousands of people whose chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia are aggravated by their sweet tooth. I also understand the problem first hand. A former sugar addict myself, I came down with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome in 1975. Eliminating my sugar addiction was an important part of my recovery.
Sure it was. And recovery had nothing to do with finding a place to live (he claims he was homeless at that time).

Constipation can also be a problem. When you don't eat foods with fiber, and load up on sugar instead, the transit time that food is in your digestive system increases: food tends to putrefy in the digestive tract, releasing toxins. You get brain fog, and feel sluggish and achy. In the extreme, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia may develop.
Yup, that's exactly how CFS happens. You stop eating AllBran, start downing the Twinkies, food starts to putrefy in your gut and whammo - you've got CFS or FM.

Using caffeine and sugar to boost energy artificially can lead to all sorts of health problems, including an impaired immune system, sleep disorders, headaches, high blood pressure, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia. You can feel better by following the SHINE protocol.
What did you say? You don't fit into the low fiber/Twinky profile? Ah well, it must have been all that sweetened coffee you drank that caused your CFS.

As you have discovered, the price of overindulging in sweets is high. A type 3 sugar addict often feels fatigued: You may even have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibromyalgia. But it doesn't stop there. Yeast overgrowth fueled by sugar can cause numerous other health problems...In addition to causing allergies, yeast overgrowth can lead to chronic conditions for Type 3 sugar addicts, such as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, and immune dysfunction.
Oh, it's the candida-leads-to-CFS theory due to Twinkies or Starbucks consumption. But you're right doc. CFS doesn't stop there. It goes on to cause cardiac myopathy, organ damage, and maybe even lymphoma.

Do you suffer from persistent, severe fatigue that does not go away with rest? Do you experience horrible insomnia, widespread pain, and severe brain fog? You may have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome or Fibromyalgia. These two conditions can occur as one type of sugar addiction snowballs into the next, creating a cascade effect. This means you may have symptoms of all four types of sugar addiction simultaneously.
Wow!! He covers all bases here. If you have CFS and kept eating Twinkies, you may have developed all four types of sugar addictions. You need to read the whole book.

The connection between sugar and CFS/FMS
Although the initial infection may have triggered your chronic fatigue syndrome, it could have been aggravated by the antibiotics exacerbating your yeast overgrowth.
Going out on a limb for this claim, he assumes that the initial infection that started your CFS was treated with antibiotics and that is what promoted your yeast problems. So, now we are up to three possible causes of CFS: 1) low/fiber + Twinky diet 2) Starbucks addiction 3) Antibiotics

Sugar also impairs your immune system...This makes it harder for your body to fight off infections and can enable many kinds of simple infections to turn into Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
I think you've got it backwards, doc. CFS impairs your immune system which subsequently impairs your digestion.

Having treated more than 3,000 patients with CFS and FMS successfully (and more than 15, 000 at the Fibromyalgia and Fatigue Centers nationally), we have found that sugar addiction is the rule rather than the exception.
And we believe this because???

As more and more people have grown addicted to sugar and have used it to deal with stress, CFS and FMS have become more common
Big leap of correlation here. But we trust you Dr. T. No need to cite any science.

When your immune system is impaired, many unusual infections can take hold. These include viral infections (e.g. XMRV, HHV-6, CMV, and EBV), parasites and other bowel infections, infections sensitive to other long-term treatment with the antibiotics Cipro and Doxycycline (e.g. micoplasma, chlamydia, Lyme disease, etc.), and fungal infections. Clinical experience shows that treating with prescription antifungals such as Diflucan can help relieve the symptoms seen in these syndromes.
Diflucan for XMRV??? Am I reading this right?
 

V99

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SUGAR! SUGAR! WHAT!!!

Having been an athlete who hardly ate sugar, before or after getting ill. SUGAR!!! :rolleyes:
 

Adam

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Kim that was so funny. Sweet you might say. Old Teitelbaum is a genius...in what I'm not quite sure. Making money I imagine. Certainly not medicine. The little matter of XMRV and scientific research will not get in the way Jack-of all-trades-Jacob.

Sugar eh, who'd have thought it?

Next thing he'll be telling us fags and booze are bad for your health.

Keep 'em coming Kim. Nice one.
 

serenity

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haha! thanks guys - needed this. now if you can only tell me how to get the acupuncture pushers off my back...
 

justinreilly

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Kim,
Thanks for giving us a taste of the nonsense. I think that most of what Teitelbaum writes is great and helps people. I do believe that in the absence of good western medical treatment, the way to get healthier is to live very healthfully. And this only does so much for most of us. I live like a monk and constantly feel like i've got a drug addict's withdrawal- not fair.

I believe the body can heal itself in the case of most injuries and illnesses. A small percentage of people with ME are able to go into remission, probably with a combination of a good constitution (innate ability to self heal), discipline and perserverance. Obviously (except to Teitelbaum) this does not mean discipline and perserverance and not eating sugar etc will cure many people or that sugar causes ME.

I think he really goes over the line and does a lot of harm saying that sugar and stress etc are the cause of ME/CFIDS rather than minor contributing factors/ exacerbators. It baffles me why he would think this and tell people this. Anyone who knows anything knows this isn't true.